4 Wheel Drive/SUVs/Steering noise

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1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee with all the time 4 wheel drive.

I have a front end/wheel noise: it sounds like a metal rod is slapping from on hub to the other in the front end.
It only happens when I first start to roll and the wheel is turned to the left or right - doesn't have to be a sharp turn but it is a lot more noticeable on a sharp turn.

As soon as the wheels make a full revolution it goes away.

Once in a great while it will make the noise if I sit still and turn the wheel.  There is no vibration transfered to the steering wheel.

5 mechanics have given up.

I have replaced: brakes, rotors, wheel bearings, cv joints and the spider gears.

If you remove the front drive shaft it still makes the noise.

Any help will be greatly appreciated by me and the mechanics who are standing around, scratching their heads and muttering profane syllables.  

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Patrick,

Since you have replaced most of the parts that I would suspect, your next step, is to check out all of your steering components, and the u-joints in the front drive line.  This is a tough one to diagnose without seeing, or driving the Jeep.  Another possibility, is one of your front brake calipers is hanging up, or binding.  The Grand Cherokees did have some problems with the front brakes.  See if you can get a friend to stand near the front end of the Jeep while you do what you can to make the sound, and have them try to pin point the location the sound is coming from.  If you can do this, then you can try to troubleshoot the problem from there.  

If this doesn't locate the problem, then I would go to a reputable front end shop, and have the Jeep's front end aligned.  When this is done, they can check the ball joints, along with the steering components to see if there is a worn, or broken part in the steering system.  Any of these parts can cause this type of noise.

To a lesser degree, I have seen broken, or loose suspension components such as the shocks, or steering stabilizer cause similar noises.

Carl

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Will discuss suspensions, lifts, lockers along with tire suggestions. Trail ratings and possible requirements needed for specific type of trails. Safety equipment and what you should carry with you. Certified off-road instructor. I am not a mechanic, and 4-Wheeling is a hobby, so if I can't answer a technical question it is due to my mechanical knowledge being related to vehicles that I have owned, or have worked on. I do not have manuals on all vehicles.

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40 plus years of 4 wheeling in a variety of vehicles. At the present time, my major off-road rig is a 94 Jeep Wrangler with a spring over and a 1 1/2" suspension lift. This gives me a total lift of 7" or so. I have lockers front and rear. I have removed the track bars, and sway bar for maximum articulation. I am running a stock 2.5 ltr 4 cylinder with a Jacobs ignition along with a cold air high flow filter. It has 4.56:1 gears with a Dodge NV4500 transmission along with a 3.8:1 Atlas II transfer case. This gives me a final ratio of 105:1 in low gear/low range. Other vehicles I own, are a 96 Ford F-250 with a 6" lift, posi rear end, 36" Hummer tires, 5 speed with a fuel injected 460 ci engine, an 87 Samurai with an 8" lift, Ford 9" rear end with a spool, Chevy Dana 44 front end with an electric locker, 5.88 gears, 16% reduction in high range and a 6.5:1 low range with 35" Baja Claws, and a stock 2003 Grand Cherokee Overland. Trails I have run are the Rubicon (10 times), Dusey Ershim, Fordyce Creek trail, McGrew trail, several trails in Moab, Utah along with local monthly runs.

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Certified off-road instructor - Certificates in engineering/electronics

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