AboutDeborah Expertise I can answer almost any question regarding abortion, such as health aspects, emotional
aspects, and especially answering debate questions.
Experience I have written almost 10,000 posts over the last few years on this topic. I have a forum as well as a blog which also discuss abortion.
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Education/Credentials I have a Bachelor's Degree in Biology, and am halfway through a Master's Degree, also in Biology. I have access to and read many of the top medical journals, from which I also get the best, most thorough and accurate to answers to pressing medical and health related questions. This equips me with factual, biological information to dispel many myths related to abortion.
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Question I have a very strong opinion on this subject, for one thing, because I
have fourteen brothers and sisters. As far as I know, none of them were planned. I
can't imagine not having any of them. And yes, the burden of proof is most
definitely on you because of what's at stake. Abandon all your preconceptions for
just a moment and consider this: what if you're wrong? If you are wrong, then
millions of innocent, helpless infants have been killed because the parents
apparently have some problem with giving the baby up for adoption. Now I will
abandon all my preconceptions and ask myself, "What if I'm wrong?" Well, if I'm
wrong, I have violated women's rights. Obviously, my beliefs rest on more than
sheer odds, but when sheer odds are taken into account, you can see the problem.
Would you rather be guilty of somewhat lessening women's rights, or do you really
want to risk being guilty of supporting the deaths of millions of babies?
You are absolutely right when you say that we cannot violate another
person's body and force them to do something that they have given no consent to,
but that's just it. I have never seen medical proof that an unborn child is part
of a woman's body. You have yet to give any.
You said "when life begins is in the eye of the beholder." That is
absolutely false. How long will it take for someone to say that life begins at one
year, and that a woman who gives birth has a "trial period", so if she doesn't
like having a baby, she can just kill her baby? That is exactly the door your
argument opens for society.
Furthermore, your saying that it's in the eye of the beholder strongly
implies that you believe we can't know for sure. If you could prove that life
begins at birth, it would not be in the eye of the beholder, it would be a medical
fact. If we can't know, then what in the world are we doing even arguing about
this?
You said that an embryo is a tiny unit of cells. Well, if we look deep
enough, I'm sure we would see that we are all just collections of cells. There is
evidence that unborn babies are responsive, as well, so your saying that they
can't feel or suffer is very questionable, indeed. See
brownback.senate.gov/english/legissues/cultureoflife/unbornchildpainact.cfm
I'll end with this: I don't hate women, I have no wish to violate their
rights, I just care about the little people. I have lived with many little people,
and I have a fair idea how much of a pain they can be, but I wouldn't give that
up. I think it's sad that there are so many women who are willing to do just that to their own child.
Answer Dear ADAM,
The part about what if you are right and what if I am right does not make sense. Please try to follow this logically.
What we are discussing is what to CALL an embryo, not what an embryo IS. Your statement only makes sense if we do not know what an embryo is, and might find out we are killing an actual person instead of
cells. But we DO KNOW exactly what an embryo is. It is an inanimate collection of cells, it is not a person. Even if you decide to call the embryo a "baby" doesn't make the embryo magically become a "baby".
A baby can think and feel and suffer and is not a body part of another human being. An embryo cannot think or feel and is a body part of another human being.
Do you know what an embryo actually is? Do you know what it looks like and how big it is? There is absolutely no question scientifically about the awareness level of an embryo. It has none. Do you worry about whether or not the egg feels pain as it dies while coming out in the woman's period every month? Why not?
If I thought for one minute that fully formed tiny babies who could feel and suffer were being aborted, then I would be able to see where you are coming from. However, that is not the case, and it isn't even close to the reality of what abortion is.
Your answer about all of the little people, etc., etc. makes no sense in this debate because we are not discussing infanticide.
If you write back again, please answer these questions:
Do you know what an embryo actually is? Do you know what it looks like and how big it is?