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Expert: Danielle
Date: 9/9/2007
Subject: Operation or Pills?
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QUESTION: Danielle
Yesterday I went to my doctor after work and after having the pills and he said “cytotec will never do anything to you, I knew a patient who took the whole packet and didn’t abort” when I insisted on having these pills as a chance to avoid operation, he said “ok have one pill vaginal and let’s see”
I didn’t follow his instructions, I followed my friend pharmacologist instructions and took 1200 mg of cytotec, 600 mg orally (3 pills) and 600 mg vaginal (3 pills) and that was last night at 1 am…
I woke up at 8 am and… Nothing has happened! Till now nothing has happened, no pain no bleeding to cramps no anything at all!
I was shocked! I called 4 pharmacies and described my case, look what all of them said: you took a very extreme high dosage that might kill you (!!), having nothing to be done after taking it is meaning one of two explanations, your body didn’t and don’t work with cytotec, or, your pregnancy is too healthy and too strong because a high dosage like this couldn’t effect a bit, don’t take any extra dosages, your solution is in a surgical operation.
Oh my goodness Danielle… again… I will consider the operation again… I’m dieing afraid from it Danielle… I’m scared till a very bad degree from this operation… I don’t want to have it. They have warned me from taking another dosage, do you agree with that? They all see surgical operation is the only way out, do you see that too?
My heart is jumping from fear, it is panic…
Dane I’m fed up, my patience is over and my strength is gone I’M FED UP this night mare will not be ended, I hate myself I hate myself I hate myself and regret I do regret deeply regret everywhile everyday.
By the way I tried to call that pharmacologist and ask him, his mobile is off
And notice something, cytotec should not be taken after the 8th week of pregnancy (I’m almost on the 7th) AND my doctor says that he will not do the operation if the 8th week has passed. I HAVE TO DECIDE QUICKLY!
Operation or extra dosage?
Help me.
P.S: Dear if you feel bored from emailing me and from my case I do understand and do appreciate all you efforts and support, you can just ignore this email and thank you thank you dear for everything. God bless you.
ANSWER: That's odd, you had a good chance that it would cause an abortion. Especially if you haven't started bleeding yet, then the outlook isn't good.
If it didn't work this time, don't try it again. I mean, you can if you want, but I wouldn't advise it. I think it's best to do what the doctor feels is best. If you try it again it probably won't do anything else.
Don't hate yourself! Hate anything else but yourself, it's not your fault this process hasn't been easier for you, which it should have. It's absolutely ridiculous you have to go through hell and back just to terminate a pregnancy. I promise, this will be over soon.
Try and hang in there a little longer. Go with the surgery. You'll be absolutely, completely fine. Only 1 in every 100,000 women die from this surgery. It's probably the lowest risk procedure you could do. The doctor knows what he's doing; he's not doing too much.
I PROMISE, completely, PROMISE, you'll be ok. 5 minutes, and it's done. That's it. Painful, but worth it.
No, of course not! I love getting your emails :) I always hope to hear from you. Good luck with your decision, and let me just say that if there was a big chance, or any reasonable chance of you dyeing, the doctor wouldn't dare perform the surgery. As a doctor, he really, really doesn't want that for many reasons. Try to stay calm, everything is going to go smoothly. I'll talk to you after your surgery, or if you choose to try the pills again. Either way, you're going to get through this nightmare.
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QUESTION: DANIELLE¡K
Your promise has be achieved Dane!
I did the operation and I¡¦m ok ƒº I have checked your answer before going to the hospital and really it help me to go throw it. It gave me strong courage.
I looked horribly scared going to the hospital, my BF preferred not to come with me! He wanted to be away from any risk, can you imagine that! My colleague (who brought me Cytotec) came with me, she was taking care of me in a super way, what a kind hearted helpful and brave girl she is, do you know that I wouldn¡¦t be able to enter the hospital without her documented signature as she is fully responsible of me, and she did.
It was a small friendly Christian hospital, the operation went smoothly with 2 nurses and 2 doctors, and they all were smiley with me. It took 10 minutes and another 10 minutes for me to wake up and walk out from the hospital. The doctor told me to take a strong antibiotic and a pain killer if I need it, but I don¡¦t, I have no pain down there, just my back is cramped (I think from the quite old operation bed I laid on) and my stomach is some how blow, I guess it is normal, right?
Oh Danielle the night mare is over! It is over my friend! Thank god¡K Thank YOU!
But you know, many black ideas always flash & cross my mind¡K
I can¡¦t imagine my small baby coming out of me to be thrown in a rubbish packet¡K I can¡¦t stand this picture in my mind at all.
I can¡¦t stop blaming my self actually, I gave life to my baby (and felt it there inside me for 6 weeks) and then took it from him again!
Out of the possibility of being arrested or dead or socially dishonored, guess what, I asked religious resources and discovered that abortion is completely illegal in Islam (I¡¦m Muslim), it is a complete murder! And even if the baby doesn¡¦t come from married parents it should be birthed anyway. Now my god didn¡¦t help me! Actually he hates me! I killed my son Danielle! Look I¡¦m not religious at all but you know, god whatever his name is for each one of us always has a place in our hearts; you know sometimes we talk to him and ask him for things¡K now he hates me, seriously I¡¦m a criminal.
And truly I¡¦m shocked and angry that my boyfriend didn¡¦t come with me, This is a real shock! I told my self I think this entire problem happened to figure out and discover his cower-ness and being not a man at all. There is a problem between us nowadays.
Dane this experience has added like 10 years to my age, I better quick in making lots of changes in my life, but I feel disappointed somehow.
I will visit my doctor next Wednesday as a follow up and I¡¦m thinking about making ultra sound to get sure about my clean abortion.
Well dear¡K that is enough for you from me, I don¡¦t want to bother you again, I will handle my coming life bravely as I handled this experience (as you said) and know that you who gave me this brave and believe in myself like no one or nothing has ever done to me.
Thank you will never be enough¡K know that you have a friend in Egypt who is ready for any help you may ask, my email is: yasmine_kamel1985@hotmail.com
Rabina yebariklak (God bless you) and forever¡K
Good bye my expert¡K
Yours truly,
Yasmine
Answer
That's great! And yes, very kind of your colleague to be there. It's a shame your boyfriend chose to do that. And it sounds like a very smooth operation!
I know you're very upset right now, but listen to me best you can. you don't have to listen or agree with anything I'm going to tell you, but it might help a little.
A pregnancy at 6 weeks is not much. Not even a fetus, doesn't even have a sex yet. If you were to see correct pictures of what it looked like, you'd see that it was not formed very much.
You're no criminal, at least in my book. Criminal is outlawing abortion and not providing enough information necessary to prevent unwanted pregnancy. A crime would be if you had given birth to a baby you couldn't take care of.
If you want to be technical, it wasn't murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of one human being by another. You didn't abort a human, you aborted a group of cells. And for it to be murder, the baby would have had to already been born. You did NOT kill your son, you sent him to a much better place where he will be cared for, and I promise you, he knows why you did what you did, and he will welcome you the day you leave this earth.
No, your god doesn't hate you. Maybe in the eyes of religious people who have never had to deal with what you had to deal with, or men who will never need an abortion. Why would god judge you, or hate you for terminating a pregnancy, when there are murderers, rapists, thieves, racists, sexist people, and downright hateful people he's going to judge first? Someone raping a young girl is going to look much worse to him than doing what you needed to do for you and your baby.
Your boyfriend acted extremely disrespectfully. You sure didn't get pregnant alone, and he should have stood up and taken responsibility where he needed to take it.
This will all work out. Just know the worst is done! And yes, that is a good idea, although you're probably fine. But it'd be dangerous if there was still tissue inside.
No, you're not a bother! I've been waiting to hear how it went! And thank you for sharing! Oh yes, you handled this problem so well, you can certainly take on anything with your strength and bravery.
I'm so glad I could help a little, it was my pleasure. And thank you SO much for the email address, I'm honored! Just remember, if you EVER need to talk or have a question, I'm always here. Or if not, my email address directly is d_heaney@yahoo.com. Never hesitate to contact me.
You have been so amazing through this nightmare, and congratulations for it being over with! God bless you, and may you take on any problem in the future with the strength you took on this one.
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