Expert: Scott Valentine - 1/27/2008

Question
QUESTION: Hey Scott, Thanks.
(Intel iMac/Tiger:) I edited photo images  (jpg, raw, etc) in Adobe LR, found
them in Bridge, opened in
PSCS3, and uploaded to my online gallery. Problem: viewing online, the
unedited versions are visible!  
Not what I saw in Bridge or PS.  How do I control which version is exported
from LR to PS? How do I
control which version is uploaded to a web gallery?

 In Bridge, there is a little icon above right of some images - a circle with 2
triangles in it. I can't find
help for what this means. Is this a LR sign? Does it mean there are version
stacks? How do I designate
which version is to be used (version to be sent to POD gallery, etc)?

Should I go back into LR and change something before sending to PS? Can I
designate which version is
exported from PS? Thanks so much for helping. --confused here. :)

ANSWER: Interesting question! I'm not a LR user, but I'll give this a shot... the little symbol indicates that the file is RAW or DNG, but has some edits applied to it.

How are you uploading to your gallery? Are you saving as a JPG from PS? i.e., are you using Save As... or Save for Web? I typically use Save for Web, then choose JPG, with other settings changed as needed. Also, are you creating a gallery from PS, or are you simply using PS to convert the file type, then using something like FTP or a web-based browser to upload?

I guess the brute-force solution is to create a "Final" folder where you save web-ready versions of your gallery pictures and upload from there. It's not very elegant, but it's time-tested and proven. If you are relying on LR to properly communicate with PS, I can tell you "it should", but I have no hands-on experience with that work flow.

Please do follow up and let me know if checking the Save For... settings helped, or if you found another solution. If you still have trouble, I'll see if I can dig up some answers from the Adobe folks themselves.

-Scott

---------- FOLLOW-UP ----------

QUESTION: Scott, Thanks so much for your reply. I'm uploading to a POD, Imagekind.com. Had to upload large
files, sometimes (from PSCS3) jpeg or Tif so they can print. To help others, here's the latest:
Imagekind apparently has some glitch in reading ProPhoto or Adobe RGB color spaces, but CAN read
with no color shift, sRGB. Another IK user in a forum came up with this. Interesting!  I have to
sacrifice the lower gamut with sRGB, which is not so cool. If anyone can be helped by this, they can
see on my blog (http:heart4art.blogspot.com) a post with the color shift difference. Bottom line, it's
not an Adobe issue, it's an IK issue.
Hey, I appreciate your kind assistance and wish you well. TR

Answer
First, thanks very much for following up! I was thinking of something completely different than a color shift, so I'm glad to hear it's a color space issue, not something more bizarre like a file structure or other format problem.

The sRGB space is meant for screen display, so it may make sense to save your web versions and then re-edit them for color correction afterwards. So, you'd end up with your "good" image and a "web" image. For grins, take a look at your calibration settings (if any) as well as the various working gamut options in Photoshop. You might find another solution that works for you, but it may require adjusting or recalibrating.

Second, great site you have there ;)  Thanks (again) for sharing!

-Scott