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Hello,

Here we are on a snowy evening in the UK playing Yahtzee.

Please can you explain the probability of shaking a particular number with one dice twice, as opposed to two dice once.

For example, I have already shaken 4 sixes on the other 4 dice, so to get a Yahtzee I need to shake a six with my last remaining dice.

The probability of shaking a six in the first shake is 1/6 and it would appear that the probability of shaking a six in the second shake is 1/6.

So is the probability of shaking a six in one or other of the two remaining goes 2/12 ie.1/6?

I understand the probability calculations for shaking a six with two dice and realise that they are different.

I look forward to receiving your comments and thank you in advance!

Belinda

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The probability function for one die is
#     p
1    1/6
2    1/6
3    1/6
4    1/6
5    1/6
6    1/6

To get the probablity function for two dice, note that since each number has probability 1/6,
that would mean the second roll would have probability 1/6 of 1/6, or 1/36.
So if the first die was a 1, the second die would give the sum

#     p
2    1/36
3    1/36
4    1/36
5    1/36
6    1/36
7    1/36

Taking this into account for 6 possibilities on the first die, we get the same table
starting with a 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.

This is equivalant to 1/36 chance of a 2, 2/36 chance of a 3 on up to 6/36 chance of a 7,
then 5/36 chance of an 8 down to 1/36 chance of a 12.  This looks like
#     p
2    1/36
3    2/36
4    3/36
5    4/36
6    5/36
7    6/36
8    5/36
9    4/36
10   3/36
11   2/36
12   1/36.

As far as the probability of getting a 6 on either die, the rolls would be
1,6 / 2,6 / 3,6 / 4,6 / 5,6 / 6,6 / 6,5 / 6,4 / 6,3 / 6,2 / 6,1 - 11 ways to do it.

Let A and be a 6 on the first die and B be a 6 on the second die.
This can be found by P(AuB) = P(A) + P(B) - P(AB)
It is known that P(A) = 1/6 and P(B) = 1/6, and that the chance of them both being a 6 is the product of the two, so P(AB)=1/36.

The chances of a 6 are then 1/6 + 1/6 - 1/36 = 6/36 + 6/36 - 1/36 = 11/36.
Note that this is a little less than 1/3.

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