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QUESTION: Dear Prof Scott

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator

Can Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) provide a battery backup for Elevators / Lifts in case the mains power goes up ?.

Awaiting your reply,

Thanks & Regards,
Prashant S Akerkar

ANSWER: In most elevators, when the power goes out, the elevator will return to the ground floor and open the doors.  Once this is done, the elevator turns off.  To put in a power supply to handle the elevators when the main power goes out would require an enormous power supply system.  That is because elevators require a vast amount of energy.

If most buildings, when the power goes out, they have a back up system where only a minimal amount of lights are kept on.  This is because to keep all of the lights on would require too much power.  Since elevators require even more power that just lights, an backup generator would be too big and cost too much money at the current time.

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QUESTION: Dear Prof Scott

Thank you.

http://thyssenkruppelevator.com/webapps/energy-calculator/

1. Is it possible to use more than One UPS in series or parallel after computing the elevator power consumption ?.

http://www.zbattery.com/Connecting-Batteries-in-Series-or-Parallel
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081023103102AAzJSAp
http://www.dutchforce.com/~eforum/index.php?s=fb8a29e07086c52ec4e9550903c8b0f0&s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdgq1-o1_8g
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19257711-building-a-super-UPS
http://sabmatic.co/battery-configuration-choices-to-optimise-ups-reliability/

a. When the mains supply goes, the elevator will come to ground floor for the people to exit / come out of the lift.

b. The Elevator will continue working for specific INTERVAL - hours depending upon the UPS Batteries power output. The UPS Batteries will be charged from AC Mains supply once the power is restored.

c. Elevator controls will indicate to the people inside the elevator using Alarms or LED Blinking that the elevator is using the UPS Battery Backup power and also indicating the Battery Backup time remaining for the Lift Operational. For example : 3 Hours remaining, with a decrements counter
in Hours:Minutes:Seconds.

http://pmw.sourceforge.net/doc/TimeCounter.html

2. Can this be possible to implement within Elevator electronic panel controls ?.

Awaiting your reply,

Thanks & Regards,
Prashant S Akerkar

Answer
From what I have seen, to do this for an elevator would take a massive power supply and doing so would drain the batteries quite fast.  Perhaps the batteries could be put down below.  In this way, the elevator would not have to lift them, but a massive cable would be needed.  However, even this would put to much excess weight on the elevator.

The way technology is going, however, they might be able to transmit power through the air at some point in time.  If this could be done on the PC, a small computer could be put on the elevator with a fairly large emergency computer to transmit it power down below.

PCs can be hooked together without and wires, but to to hook physical force still requires something between them.'
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 Rating(1-10) Knowledgeability = 10 Clarity of Response = 10 Politeness = 10 Comment Dear Prof Scott Thank you. Thanks & Regards, Prashant S Akerkar

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