Advanced Math/Area and arc length
Expert: Paul Klarreich - 9/25/2007
Questionfind the area of the region delta in the xy plane bounded by the graphs of:
delta: y^2=x^2{(1-x)/(1+x)} as x is [0,1]
assume distance in meters
obviously it is discontinuous at x=-1, but that isn't in the restriction anyway.
length of an arc: y= 2(x)^1/2 x is [0,1]
hint advises that you substitute x=tan^2, answer in meters.
for this one, i used the formula of the integral from 0 to 1 of the square root of 1+{f'(x)}^2. in doing this, i first found dy/dx of y=2(x)^1/2 as (x)^-1/2. square this and you have under the radical 1+ 1/x. then i substituted x for tan^2.... then you get 1+1/tan^2, which is 1+cot^2, which is csc^2, take the square root of that and you get the integral of cscudu, which is ln abs(cscu-cotu) from 0 to 1 + c. then: ln abs(csc(1)-cot(1))- ln abs(csc(0)-cot(0)) + c. and this is where i am unsure. but maybe i did it all wrong anyway?
AnswerQuestioner: Amery
Category: Advanced Math
Private: No
Subject: Area and length of an arc using an Integral (calculus 2)
Question: find the area of the region delta in the xy plane bounded by the graphs of:
delta: y^2=x^2{(1-x)/(1+x)} as x is [0,1]
assume distance in meters
obviously it is discontinuous at x=-1, but that isn't in the restriction anyway.
...........
length of an arc: y= 2(x)^1/2 x is [0,1]
hint advises that you substitute x=tan^2, answer in meters.
for this one, i used the formula of the integral from 0 to 1 of the square root of 1+{f'(x)}^2. in doing this, i first found dy/dx of y=2(x)^1/2 as (x)^-1/2. square this and you have under the radical 1+ 1/x. then i substituted x for tan^2.... then you get 1+1/tan^2, which is 1+cot^2, which is csc^2, take the square root of that and you get the integral of csc u du,
>> You forgot something here. See below.
which is ln abs(cscu-cotu) from 0 to 1 + c. then: ln abs(csc(1)-cot(1))- ln abs(csc(0)-cot(0)) + c. and this is where i am unsure. but maybe i did it all wrong anyway?
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Hi, Amery,
This looks like two separate questions.
First: Area under y = x sqrt( (1-x)/(1+x) ) from 0 to 1.
I know that you are supposed to get the area between the two 'branches' of y^2 = ..., but the symmetry lets you just take that area above and double it.
Now I hope you made an error in inputting this expression, because there is no reasonable way to integrate this. Not impossible, but I am an old man now, and I have a couple of other things I would like to do before I go.
[How do I know it's bad? Look up:
THE INTEGRATOR
on the web, at
http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp
and you will see the mess created by this integral.
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Second:
Arc length of y= 2(x)^1/2, where x is in [0,1]
Yes, the arc length is given by:
{1
| sqrt(1 + (f')^2 ) dx
}0
and f'(x) = x^-1/2, so you will have:
=======================================================
WARNING: USE COURIER FONT TO VIEW THIS
===================================================
{1
| sqrt(1 + (x^-1/2)^2 ) dx =
}0
{1
| sqrt(1 + 1/x) dx =
}0
{1
| sqrt((x + 1)/x) dx =
}0
Now the INTEGRATOR gives this answer:
1
Sqrt[1 + -] Sqrt[x]
x
ArcSinh[Sqrt[x]]
(Sqrt[x] + ----------------)
Sqrt[1 + x]
[the two lines are multiplied]
but I don't think you are supposed to be using inverse hyperbolic functions. So perhaps we find another way. You got the hint that you should do a trig substitution:
x = tan^2 t
dx = 2 tan t sec^2(t) dt << don't forget this part.
and your integral transforms to: ( T stands for tan t )
{
| sqrt((T^2 + 1)/T^2) 2 T sec^2(t) dt =
}
{
| 2 sqrt((sec^2(t)/T^2) T sec^2(t) dt =
}
{
| 2 sec(t)/T * T sec^2(t) dt =
}
{
| 2 sec(t) sec^2(t) dt =
}
Now the Integrator gives this answer, which might give us a hint:
t t
(-Log[Cos[-] - Sin[-]] +
2 2
t t
Log[Cos[-] + Sin[-]] + Sec[t] Tan[t] )
2 2
Now I suppose I could work this out, given the answer, perhaps along these lines:
{
| sec(t) sec^2(t) dt =
}
{ 1
| --------------- dt
} cos t cos^2(t)
{ cos t
| --------------- dt
} cos^2(t) cos^2(t)
{ cos t
| ----------------------------- dt
} (1 - sin^2(t))(1 - sin^2(t))
Let u = sin t, du = cos t dt, and you have:
{ 1
| ------------------ du
} (1 - u^2)(1 - u^2)
and now the method of Partial Fractions should work. (But not in the few years I have left, so I will leave that to you.)