Advanced Math/Trigonometric inequality
Expert: Paul Klarreich - 10/17/2007
QuestionQUESTION: I believe the following inequality is true, BUT I haven't found a
reference nor I have been able to prove it...
I wonder if anyone could help me prove it or find a reference...Thanks
|sin ax| >= a |sin x| for all real x and all positive real a<=1.
[Difficulty]
I know that the following inequality is true. I do believe it may help prove the previous
one... Thanks
n |sin x|>= |sin nx| for all reals x and positive integers n
ANSWER: Questioner: Guillermo
Category: Advanced Math
Private: No
Subject: Trigonometric inequality
Question: I believe the following inequality is true, BUT I haven't found a reference nor I have been able to prove it...
I wonder if anyone could help me prove it or find a reference...Thanks
|sin ax| >= a |sin x| for all real x and all positive real a <= 1.
[Difficulty]
I know that the following inequality is true. I do believe it may help prove the previous one... Thanks
n |sin x| >= |sin nx| for all reals x and positive integers n
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Hi, Guillermo,
There might be a good reason why you are having difficulty proving that
|sin ax| >= a |sin x| for all real x and all positive real a <= 1.
I DON'T THINK IT IS TRUE. I tried a quick and dirty graph of, for
example:
| sin (.217x) | versus .217 | sin x |
The first one is higher than the second MOST of the time, but not
always. Only in the case a = 1/n, where n is an integer, will it be true. In that case, you shouldn't have any [Difficulty] using that known inequality.
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QUESTION: Thanks for your answer. I am not fully convinced that
|sin ax| >= a |sin x| for all real x and all positive real a <= 1.
ONLY holds for a=1/n with n an integer...
Are we able to establish bounds for x or a in order to make the inequality hold???
Anyway, thanks a lot for your fast answer...
AnswerQuestioner: Guillermo
Category: Advanced Math
Private: No
Subject: Trigonometric inequality
---------- FOLLOW-UP ----------
QUESTION: Thanks for your answer. I am not fully convinced that
|sin ax| >= a |sin x| for all real x and all positive real a <= 1.
ONLY holds for a=1/n with n an integer...
Are we able to establish bounds for x or a in order to make the inequality hold???
Anyway, thanks a lot for your fast answer...
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Hi, Guillermo,
In my opinion, we are not to establish 'bounds' for a. If you look at the graphs of the left and right sides, for some value of a < 1, you see that each one looks like a 'bouncing ball', but they bounce at different rates and different heights.
|sin ax| -- is SLOW, but higher.
a |sin x| -- is FAST, but lower.
If a is exactly 1/n, for integer n, the zeroes (the bounce points?) of SLOW are a subset of the zeroes of FAST. If, for example, a = 1/3, then every third zero of FAST is a zero of SLOW.
But if a is not 1/n, then the zeroes are at different points. Then the SLOW graph (the higher one) will always have some points -- its zeroes -- where it is lower than the FAST one.
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Bounds for x? That's different. If you restrict x to this interval:
-pi/2 <= a <= pi/2
then I think your inequality will hold. [But please don't hold your breath waiting for me to supply a proof.]