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I have an opportunity to pick up a Jeweler Safe. It reads WJ Sader Gary Safe Co, Buffalo NY. Do you know anything about this? I was wondering what the value of this would be. It is approx. 7ft tall 4ft wide 2 ft deep. It is on 4 big casters. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Dawn,
The safe is not a Jewelers Safe. It is basically an old record safe. Some of these safes had interior chests that were more secure, but none of them have current ratings and should not be used for overnight storage of valuables in excess of $3000.
Secondly, I don't think it is a "Gary" safe, it is probably a "Cary" safe. Gary safes were built in the Los Angeles area before they became Allied Gary and moved to Seattle. Cary Safe was in Buffalo.
Typical value would be in the neighborhood of $0-$1000 depending on the condition of the safe. Without seeing the safe I can't give you a better price than this.
Feel free to send me pictures of the safe so that I can give you a better idea.
The WJ Sader was probably the original or at least an owner at some time. It was customary for the manufacture or the distributor to put the original customers name on the safe.
Get me a little more info or some photo's so I can give you more info about it. If you can find out who WJ Sader was, you might be able to get a little closer date and age for the safe.
Andy
andy@securitysafeusa.com
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Terry V Andreasen (Andy)
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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 40 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of two Tilton & McFarland Safes from the 1860's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.
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40 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute.
Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing.
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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972
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