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Expert: - 8/26/2008


Question
ave you ever heard of a Macy safe.  It is extremley heavy, double doors, combination lock.  How do I find out the age/worth?  I think is was around 1920's.

Thanks for your help

Steve Devore
317-276-8151

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Steve,

Macy's was not a manufacture.  I suspect the safe was probably a Diebold, Mosler or HHM, though there are others also.  Macy's was probably the original owner of the safe and had their name stenciled on the front of the safe.

I would need to see pictures of the safe to come up with the manufacture and also to approximate the age.

Value is very succeptible depending on many things including but not limited to:
Manufacture, style, age, construction, condition and history.

I would need to see photo's of the safe to determine the manufacture and give you an educated guess to the age.  I can also give you a rough retail value of the safe based on the photo's.  Photo's need to include full pictures of the interior/exterior and detail photo's of the dial, handles, hinges, wheels, locks, bolt work, interior, any art work or pin striping, and any special features.

Weight is relative; anything in the 1000 to 4000 lb range would be "standard", less than 1000 lbs, small, above 4000 lbs, large.  In excess of 8,000 lbs would be extra large, above 10,000 lbs would be extremely large.

Send me the photo's so that I can give you more details.

Andy
andy@securitysafeusa.com

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 40 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of two Tilton & McFarland Safes from the 1860's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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40 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009, 2010 & 2011 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Reserve Chief Warrant Officer (CW3), with 32 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2006 US Army Retired Reserve 2006-present

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