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Expert: - 9/24/2009


Question

Macneale & Urban Safe
Hi,
I have a Macneale & Urban Safe.  The outside has been restored but the inside is still original.  The dimensions are 32w x 46h x 26d.  I have been unable to find the year it was made.  I am interested in selling it, but have no idea as to the value.  Can you give me an idea of what it is worth?

Answer
Gary,

here is the basic historical timeline for MacNeale & Urban safes.  If you have pics of the original paint work you can figure it out.

History:
  1847-1855   C. Urban Company, Cincinnati, Oh
  1855-1857   Urban, Dodds & Company, Cincinnati, Oh
  1857-1863   W.B. Dodds & Company, Cincinnati, Oh
  1863-1870   Dodds, MacNeale & Urban. Cincinnati, Oh
  1870-1888   MacNeale & Urban,  Cincinnati, Oh
  1888-1891   MacNeale & Urban, Hamilton, Oh
  1891-1903   MacNeale & Urban Lock Company, Hamilton, Oh

If the only info you have is the name MacNeale & Urban, then about the best I can tell you is 1870-1903.

In order to evaluate he safe, I'll need a complete set of photos, up close and in detail.

Send them to me at:  andy@securitysafeusa.com

andy  

Terry V Andreasen (Andy)

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