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Cary lock dial
Cary lock dial  
QUESTION: Hello I have a Cary safe that someone tried to break into, they bent the dial and the bezel around the dial. I believe it is a yale y6 or m16 lock it has a 4 digit combo. I would like to replace the dial and bezel, does the cary dial interchange with the yale dial? And would you have parts or know where I can find a used dial? Thanks for your time and expertise.

ANSWER: Scott,

I do have a couple of Cary dials that I'll have to look at to see if they will work for you.  While it will probably interchange with a Yale dial, you are going to have as many problems finding a suitable replacement yale dial as you will a Cary.

Qestion:  how long is the spindle for your dial?

Andy



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QUESTION: Do I need to remove the dial to measure the spindle? Where do I measure from? Thanks

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Scott,

I checked my parts and I have two original Cary dials, with 5" long spindles.  If you want one, you can contact me at:  andy@securitysafeusa.com   or by calling 1-800-326-4224.  The cost is $150 per dial, plus UPS shipping & handling, plus applicable tax.

andy




Scott,

Yes you will need to remove the dial to measure the spindle.  Measure it from the back of the dial the length of the spindle.

When you access the back of the lock, remove the wheel curb to reach the drive cam.  There will be a small spline key in the center of the drive cam that you must pull out.  You can then unscrew the dial from the drive cam.

Lay out all parts in the order you remove them to assist in reassembly.

If necessary, you can take a photo of the dial and spindle with a ruler laid along side, and send it to me at:  andy@securitysafeusa.com

Your alternative would be to try to repair your dial and dial ring, as a replacement is going to be around $150 to $200.

If you can't disassemble the lock, dial & ring, you may need to have a safe technician do the work for you.  Contact a local safe company, not a locksmith for service.

Andy

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 40 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of two Tilton & McFarland Safes from the 1860's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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40 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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Safecrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009, 2010 & 2011 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Reserve Chief Warrant Officer (CW3), with 32 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2006 US Army Retired Reserve 2006-present

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