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QUESTION: I wanted to know what year this safe is? Does this safe have concrete in it? What is it worth. I don't have the combination.

This is a Hall's Safe CPS Co 6991

ANSWER: David, in its current condition not worth much at all.  It looks to be early 1900's and does contain insulation, which in the original Hall's fire safe patented in 1850? was called concrete, but yours would probably be an improved fire resistant insulation mixture.  Doug

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QUESTION: the reason I asked about the concrete inside the safe was, is that a metal salvage will not buy, if is filled with concrete, any thoughts on that ? thanks david i appreciate you help

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While I have never personally tried to scrap a fire safe , I have many times the yards won't take them because they get a good weight on the iron, without it first having the insulation removed, which they don't wont to have to do.   Some insulation can be removed fairly easily especially if it already dried up and cracking.  But that is the door I am talking about, as the doors get slammed, flex and are not sealed as well as the bodies. I suspect the bodies insulation to be in better condition resulting in it be a bit better shape and you would have to cut through the outer shell to get to it. Therefore it is not worth the trouble.  Doug  

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This unusual and highly innovative safe from the later 1800's is a Corliss. William, the much younger brother of George Corliss of steam engine fame, spent several years perfecting this design and it was first displayed at the 1876 Philadelphia U.S. Centennial Exhibition. I do extensive patent research helping me in the study of antique U.S. safes and safe locks. Repairs and part making for antique U.S. safes of the early to mid 1800's, both key and combination. Also the study of early round door chest designs up to and including cannonball safes of the early 1900's.

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40 years in the lock and safe trade with a stint in bank service work. Openings, repairs and moving of safes of all types.

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Charter member Safe and Vault Technicians Association SAVTA, National Safemans Association NSO, National Antique Safe Association NASA. No longer current. Antique-Locks.com

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SAVTA monthly magazine

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CMS (Certified Master Safecracker- NSO) and CPS (Certified Professional Safe Technician - SAVTA)

Awards and Honors
2nd place national combination manipulation contest 1986 and now in 2016 1st place

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