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My grandfather left me safe it appears old I found numbers It complete andin good shape.  SPEC B1  10Y1581    SMNA GROUP 4    CAT NO. 12532  Would love info and ballpark figuer of worth.  I ave attachd a picture. Thanks Dena


Your safe is from the late 1950's.   It was designed as a burglary resistive chest for small businesses.   Assuming as you indicate it is in "good" shape, if you plan on using it, then also plan on having maintenace performed annually (yearly) to keep it working.   The majority of the body of the safe is a clad, concrete for weight.   It has a very small storage compartment for its size.

These safes are obsolete and parts haven't been available for at least 10-15 years.   This means that if it breaks or is damaged, then you might as well use it as a boat anchor.

As far as value goes:
Fire Resistance:     $0     This safe is NOT a fire resistive safe.
Burglary Resistance: $0     Does not meet current standards and is an obsolete model.
Resale:          $0     Has no commercial or retail use.   Should NOT be used for overnight storage of cash, jewelry or valuable documents.
Antique:          $0     Not over 100 years old.
Collectible:         $0     Not considered a collectible

While the safe MAY have some value ($250-$400) it isn't under any of the above categories, and with the lack of parts and maintenance problems it also isn't a safe that I would advise anyone to buy.

If you plan on keeping it, I wouldn't recommend keeping anything important in the safe that you HAVE to have access to quickly.   Get a more modern safe which will be relyable.   Storage of non-important valuables or as a display item would be acceptable.

Sorry the news isn't better.

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