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I have an old safe with double doors about six feet tall made by halls lock and safe co. serial # 104088. i would like any info about this safe. thanks for any info you can give. Danny


I'm not sure "WHAT" information that you are looking for???

If you are looking for the "individual" history of your safe - there are no records!    You would have to do all of the leg work to track it down through previous owners to build a history for your safe.   NOTE:   If it isn't documented - then it is simply a story.   Documentation would include photos of the safe in use, newspaper stories (for instance burglary attempt of safe), or original documents from the manufacturer or shippers.

I can provide you with a brief history of the manufacturer, but while it would give you the basics, it would not "individually" apply to your safe, as far as its history.

Basic History:
Hall's Safe & Lock Company, (1867-1892) owner was Joseph L. Hall.   Joseph began building safes in the 1840's with his father Edward Hall.   Joseph had several partners before beginning his own business as "Joseph L. Hall & Company"  (1860-67), finally incorporating under the name of "Hall's Safe & Lock Company" in 1867.
Shortly after Joseph's death in 1889, his son's (Edward C. Hall, William H. Hall and Charles O. Hall) merged the company with two others, in 1892, to form the Herring-Hall-Marvin Safe Company.   In 1886 after fulfilling their contractual obligations and after a disagreement with the board of directors over the planned move of HHM from the original factories, to a new location in Hamilton, OH, where all manufacturing would be done under one roof, the Hall brothers left HHM to form a new company.  The Hall's Safe Company which was in business from 1896 until around the beginning of the Great Depression, though we are still researching the actual "end" date for this company.

Assuming that the number that you have provided is the actual serial number (it would have been on the ball of the handle), then your safe would have been built around 1882-1884, which would make it an antique.

I would be more than happy to look at your safe to give you more information concerning they type of safe, or possible uses of the safe based on its construction, but I would have to see it.

In order to answer specific questions, identify, evaluate or appraise your safe, I'm going to need photos.  They should include full exterior and interior.  Detail photos should include pictures of the dial, handles, hinges, artwork, locks, bolt work, castors, cabinetry and any special details or damage.  Note:  You may have to remove the back panel on the door to gain access to the lock & bolt work – I will need these pics.
If you have a particular detail that you have a question about, I will need a photo of it along with your question.

I will also need to see any documentation that you have in regards to your safe.  If your safe has a unique historical perspective, you should be able to document this with letters, newspaper articles or photos, if not it is simply a story and will have no bearing on the value of your safe.

Please use as high a resolution as possible so that I can examine details of your safe.  Pictures which are low resolution, out of focus, or from a distance don’t help when we try to evaluate the container.  Note:  with higher resolution, you may only be able to send 2-4 pictures per email, depending on the size of the file, I have a 12mb limit per email.  If photos are larger than 2mb each, you may only be able to send 2 or 3 photos per email, requiring several emails.

Please don’t send me “cell phone” photos.   Also, please don’t use online, internet photo drops as most of these also don’t allow me to easily access the photos for examination.   Send the pics directly to me, while this may be more work for you, it will make my job easier.

Please send all of the requested photos to:

Note:  As I am in the field several days each week, covering a huge service area, I may not get back to your photos immediately, but I will respond as soon as I get an opportunity.  Due to field work, emails may tend to get backed up which means I may not answer them immediately.

Our informal evaluation is at no charge, however if you feel you need a formal evaluation or appraisal for insurance, estate sales, donations for tax write offs, or to establish it as an antique, there is an administrative fee for this service.

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes

Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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