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Hi Mike.. I'm currently clearing out an old lawyers office in Edinburgh.. There are 3 old safes, a large Milner double door safe..  also a Hipkins & Co.. the 3rd has no name plate..
Just wondered it it's worth the trouble of removing them as I probably wont have access to the building again after the 3rd of March.. Any advice would be much appreciated..

Hello Mike,

Thanks for your question and the pictures.  

The Milner was made circa 1890, the Hipkins of a similar age and I can just make out the corner of another safe which would also date back to the same late Victorian era.  All three are totally obsolete and no longer suitable for the security of cash or documents.  Being full of sand and sawdust; the Milner probably weighs around 1000kg and the other two about 470kg each.  The cost of moving them will almost certainly far exceed any residual value.  

So in short, they aren't worth a great deal, so leave them where they are.

I hope this helps.


Mike Palmer FSyI
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I earn my living identifying safes and suggesting cash limits for risk advisors and insurance surveyors in the UK. I'm am pleased to comment on safes manufactured in the UK or Mainland Europe but I am unable to accept questions regarding safes made in the USA or elsewhere.


I have been in the UK safe industry for 40 years and have one of the largest archive databases of old safe literature and serial numbers in the country. I started with Chubb in 1960 and became Assistant Manager of their Bank Security Division before moving on to become the Insurance Liaison Manager with the John Tann Group. I became Sales & Marketing Director for Guardian Safes Limited before semi-retiring. I am a Fellow of the Security Institute and ex-Chairman of Eurosafe UK, a trade body representing the interests of UK safe makers and distributors. I now work as a part time consultant.

I am an advisor to the Safe Committee of the Association of Insurance Surveyors, a Fellow of the Security Institute and founding Chairman of Eurosafe UK.

I have had literally scores of articles published in various security trade publications. So far this year I have had 24 features published in various journals including Keyways, Professional Security, Pawnbroker and Safe India. I have published one book, Peckham Boy, the life and times of the world's greatest safe cracker.

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In 1997 I was awarded the annual shield by the Association of Insurance Surveyors for "..outstanding services to crime prevention"

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I have represented or been an agent for the John Tann Group (Stratford, Ratner, Dreadnought and Tann safes); Churchill Safes, Chubb Safe Co Ltd, SLS Safes, SMP Safes, Dudley Safes and several others

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