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Hello Terry
On Feb. 15, 2012 you responded to my question regarding the age of a Diebold vault door. I sent you some photos and you had indicated an age range of 1915-1925.
Thank you for the information. It was helpful
I have another question regarding this vault door.

Can you give me an approximate cost of a new vault door of this type.
Can you give me an estimate of the cost to install this type of door. Assume the vault room and door opening is in place.
Installation would include transportation of door to bank site ,(assume 500 miles), install in existing building from hole in roof to basement ( 3 floors), install door in door frame, hook-up, test, electrics etc. Also include any other installation components that are necessary.
Appreciate you assistance.

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Gilles Moss,

I think that you misunderstand the meaning of the word "NEW"!

Chances of finding a "NEW" door which was manufactured between 1915 to 1925 is probably slim to none!   In fact you probably have a better chance of hitting the lottery than finding a "NEW" door of this age.

So I assume that what you are looking for would be a "USED" door which has been pulled out of a vault and is ready for service and/or installation.

Second item, if you are looking for a similar door, which is ready for sale and installation, I think that you better widen you search area from 500 miles to 2000 miles, as there aren't many of these doors readily available.

Obviously as I'm not going to expect you to have us come from California to Ontario to install a vault door, I'm not going to give you an estimate to install the door, as it would be fairly expensive.  You will need to contact a safe & vault company much closer to you.   If you need it lowered through a hole in the roof through to the basement you will also need a crane company which will increase the estimate significantly.

As far as all of the information that you are looking for about the installation, this will all need to be discussed with the company that installs it.   Even if I gathered all the numbers that I thought would be appropriate for this installation, it wouldn't mean anything, and probably wouldn't match what some other company might charge you.   We actually have a vault installation group that designs, estimates and installs vaults.

I'm not trying to put you off, but you really need to start a conversation with a local safe company so that you can actively start looking for a door, AND get some real numbers based on the job.

For a local company, I would recommend your contacting:

Access Security Products Ltd.
610 South Service Road West
Oakville, Ontario
Canada  L6K 2H4
(905) 337-7874 Telephone
1-800-268-9033 Toll Free

This company installs vaults and vault doors.   They may have some in stock that will work for you, and they can probably get started with some basic quotes or estimates, based on your job requirements.   Hope they can help, if not they may know of someone closer to you.

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

Organizations
Safecrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association

Publications
The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes AllExperts.com

Education/Credentials
Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service area is Northern California - Fresno to Oregon, including western Nevada

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