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I have acquired a very beautiful double-door safe made by the Hall's Safe Co. of Cincinnati, Ohio.  The combination works perfectly, however, the key to the two inside doors was lost by the previous owner a few years ago.  I have tried various old keys and even attempted to "pick" the lock without success.  Where do I find another key? or can a professional "pick" the lock with having to the lock out?  Also do you think the company used asbestos in making the safe?


Obviously as this company has been out of business for around 80 years, getting another key is going to be slim to none, which means that you will have to have a safe tech open the lock and/or make keys for your lock.   They should be able to either pick the lock open, or impression a key for it.

If you don't want to pay for the service, and insist on doing this as a DIY project, if you look really, really, really closely at the door, you may be able to see where the lock mounting screws come through the door.   The inner doors were drilled and tapped through.   After mounting the lock, and sanding the screws flush, the doors were painted.   There may be a faint, faint shadow of the screw.
Drilling the screw from this side basically has the effect of unscrewing the screw, allowing the lock to fall out.
Obviously if you can't find all three or four screws, then this is NOT going to work, and any attempt to force the lock off the door may damage it.   Replacement locks are also NOT going to be easy to find.

Once the lock is off, you can take the lock to any good locksmith, safe tech, or worse case, send it to me to have keys made.

As far as asbestos - this company never used asbestos as an insulating material, so don't worry about it.

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