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I've just made an impulse purchase on something I know nothing about, it's a twin door milners safe about 6' high 4' wide and 2' deep green in colour 1 lock 2 handles with shelves and 2 internal lockable draws. It looks to be in grate order about from paint work, I'm intending to re paint and adapt the inside to be used as a gun cabinet. I would be very gratefull for any advice or history, il leave it as it is if its something special. I paid 400 for it, not sure if that was over the odds but I'm happy with it. Many thanks in advance....... James

Hello James,

Good to hear someone excited about an old Milner's safe.  I am sure I can tell you quite a lot about it but Milner's made hundreds of different models so I would need a couple of pictures to be able to advise you further.  One should show the entire front of the safe with the doors closed and the other should show the doors open to reveal the bolt-work and door thickness.  If it is easier you can send them directly to


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I earn my living identifying safes and suggesting cash limits for risk advisors and insurance surveyors in the UK. I'm am pleased to comment on safes manufactured in the UK or Mainland Europe but I am unable to accept questions regarding safes made in the USA or elsewhere.


I have been in the UK safe industry for 40 years and have one of the largest archive databases of old safe literature and serial numbers in the country. I started with Chubb in 1960 and became Assistant Manager of their Bank Security Division before moving on to become the Insurance Liaison Manager with the John Tann Group. I became Sales & Marketing Director for Guardian Safes Limited before semi-retiring. I am a Fellow of the Security Institute and ex-Chairman of Eurosafe UK, a trade body representing the interests of UK safe makers and distributors. I now work as a part time consultant.

I am an advisor to the Safe Committee of the Association of Insurance Surveyors, a Fellow of the Security Institute and founding Chairman of Eurosafe UK.

I have had literally scores of articles published in various security trade publications. So far this year I have had 24 features published in various journals including Keyways, Professional Security, Pawnbroker and Safe India. I have published one book, Peckham Boy, the life and times of the world's greatest safe cracker.

No relevant educational credentials.

Awards and Honors
In 1997 I was awarded the annual shield by the Association of Insurance Surveyors for "..outstanding services to crime prevention"

Past/Present Clients
I have represented or been an agent for the John Tann Group (Stratford, Ratner, Dreadnought and Tann safes); Churchill Safes, Chubb Safe Co Ltd, SLS Safes, SMP Safes, Dudley Safes and several others

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