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I HAVE A FLOOR SAFE WHICH THERE IS NO NAME ANYWHERE ON THE SAFE IT HAS A BRASS DIAL  THE HANDLE TO OPEN IT WITH HAS SOME NUMBERS ON THE ROUND PART NOT WHERE YOU TURN IT TO OPEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE ARE 2 SCREW I THOUGHT THAT,S WHERE A NAME PLATE MIGHT BE ALSO DO NOT HAVE A IDEA WHAT THE SCREWS ARE FOR THE HINGES ARE  SQUARE HINGES ABOUT 4 OR 5 INCHES LONG THE DIAL IS ABOUT 4 INCHES A CROSS CAME OUT A STORE BUT NO COMBINATION THE PEOPLE IN THE STORE HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE COMBINATION IS CAN THE NUMBERS ON THE HANDLE BE THE COMBINATION. PLEASE HELP I RATHER NOT DRILL IT OPEN IF POSSIBLE DO NOT KNOW IF ANYTHING INSIDE. PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK. THANK YOU JOHN

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John, it sounds like you have a very old safe but without a photo, I can't be of much help at all.  There were many dial combination locks, made in the mid 1800's, which are just not seen anymore, some totally unknown to the safe techs of today.  The majority of safe techs out there are not proficient at manipulation, so you may be getting into an expensive proposition, especially if the lock is one that, for various reasons, cannot be manipulated.  But first, let's see if the safe and more importantly the lock, can be ID'd.  You may have something very rare on your hands.  And where are you located?  Doug  

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Doug MacQueen

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This unusual and highly innovative safe from the later 1800's is a Corliss. William, the much younger brother of George Corliss of steam engine fame, spent several years perfecting this design and it was first displayed at the 1876 Philadelphia U.S. Centennial Exhibition. I do extensive patent research helping me in the study of antique U.S. safes and safe locks. Repairs and part making for antique U.S. safes of the early to mid 1800's, both key and combination. Also the study of early round door chest designs up to and including cannonball safes of the early 1900's.

Experience

40 years in the lock and safe trade with a stint in bank service work. Openings, repairs and moving of safes of all types.

Organizations
Charter member Safe and Vault Technicians Association SAVTA, National Safemans Association NSO, National Antique Safe Association NASA. No longer current. Antique-Locks.com

Publications
SAVTA monthly magazine

Education/Credentials
CMS (Certified Master Safecracker- NSO) and CPS (Certified Professional Safe Technician - SAVTA)

Awards and Honors
2nd place national combination manipulation contest 1986 and now in 2016 1st place

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