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I have a Halls &, I cannot find a serial # or anything to identify the age of the safe, it is in beautiful condition. Here's what I know. It has a huge handle and requires a four number combination, which I have. It's been hand painted by an artist, I've seen this before on a much smaller scale. The entire safe is painted a glossy dark lavender, with a flowering tree, trimmed with double edge white border with "limited edition" written at the bottom front. Towards the right is says " #1 of 50"
Inside there is carpeting, and cubby holes, and a hidden compartment in the floor. I would like to sell this but have been unable to locate any indication of the worth. How would a person identify the age of a safe or what would be a fair price?


While you have a "Hall's" safe, it is NOT from the original Hall's Safe & Lock Company (1867-1892), or even from the Hall's Safe Company (1896-late 1920's).   Your safe was manufactured by Robert Hall out of Loomis, CA during the 1970's through about 2000.   When Robert sold the company, the company that bought it went through a bankruptcy.   It was purchased by another company and moved to Oregon.   Safes built by this company are NOT the same as yours.    I have no idea if they would have any records from the original company.    Generally with the "carpeted interior", it is probably from the late 1970's through the late 1980's.

The reason that "YOUR" safe does NOT have a serial number is that EVERY safe that Robert Hall built was individually built, and NOT a production model safe.   While aesthetically, Roberts safes were some of the nicest safes in the industry, they weren't designed for anything other than the "lowest" burglary and fire ratings.   I don't believe that he ever submitted any of his safes for UL testing, and it probably has no UL labels on it.   So regardless of how nice the safe is, if it doesn't have the labels, then it doesn't meet the standards.

As far as value, basically what you have is a "non-rated" security container, with a very nice finish.   As I haven't seen the interior of your safe, I can't comment on it.

Value:    Probably in the $800 to $1200 range

Again, this safe is at least 25-35 years old, and was never UL tested for fire or burglary resistance.

Hope this helps,  

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