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I just purchased this old safe and was wondering if you can help with the make and model?
It has no name plate or markings I can see but has a distinctive hand holding a scroll for the handle.
2 small drawers are within the main section with different keys.
I am going to restore it and would love to give it the correct badge.

Hello Andrew,

Thank you for your question.  The brass hand and bar handle was used on a number of different makes and models of safes in the late Victorian era so there's nothing I can see that identifies your safe as a particular make.  The type of construction is known as 'four corner bent'as a single sheet of mild steel was bent 4 times to form the top, botton and two sides of the body.  A back plate was fitted from the outside to an angle-iron frame and the door was hung at the front.

The back panel was particularly vulnnerable to attack and by 1910 this form of construction was obsolete.

As all manufacturers made safes of this type, you can put almost any brass badge on it.  If you search ebay for brass safe plates and antique safes you should see various types of plate being actioned.  You will also get some ideas for what colours to use when restoring your safe.

Good luck with the restoration.


Mike Palmer FSyI
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I earn my living identifying safes and suggesting cash limits for risk advisors and insurance surveyors in the UK. I'm am pleased to comment on safes manufactured in the UK or Mainland Europe but I am unable to accept questions regarding safes made in the USA or elsewhere.


I have been in the UK safe industry for 40 years and have one of the largest archive databases of old safe literature and serial numbers in the country. I started with Chubb in 1960 and became Assistant Manager of their Bank Security Division before moving on to become the Insurance Liaison Manager with the John Tann Group. I became Sales & Marketing Director for Guardian Safes Limited before semi-retiring. I am a Fellow of the Security Institute and ex-Chairman of Eurosafe UK, a trade body representing the interests of UK safe makers and distributors. I now work as a part time consultant.

I am an advisor to the Safe Committee of the Association of Insurance Surveyors, a Fellow of the Security Institute and founding Chairman of Eurosafe UK.

I have had literally scores of articles published in various security trade publications. So far this year I have had 24 features published in various journals including Keyways, Professional Security, Pawnbroker and Safe India. I have published one book, Peckham Boy, the life and times of the world's greatest safe cracker.

No relevant educational credentials.

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In 1997 I was awarded the annual shield by the Association of Insurance Surveyors for "..outstanding services to crime prevention"

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I have represented or been an agent for the John Tann Group (Stratford, Ratner, Dreadnought and Tann safes); Churchill Safes, Chubb Safe Co Ltd, SLS Safes, SMP Safes, Dudley Safes and several others

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