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Hi, my my partner & I are from Australia and have an old Milners patent fire resistant special safe in our back yard & we are wanting to know if there is any value or collector demand for the particular safe we have. It's been in our possession for a few years now. It is a little on the rusty side of life. The only identifying markers on the outside of it other then the logo and importers logo are numbers stamped up the top of the front. Those are S161 in the middle & 3368 on the right hand side. I have a few pictures of the safe if need be. It was able to be opened thought has recently rusted shut. I would appreciate a help, or even if we could be pointed in the right direction. Thanks

Hello Blaze,

Milner's was at one time the world most successful manufacturer of safes.  The likelihood is that it is very ancient but if you would like to send me some pictures I should be able to tell you a little more.  If it is easier, you can send them directly to


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I earn my living identifying safes and suggesting cash limits for risk advisors and insurance surveyors in the UK. I'm am pleased to comment on safes manufactured in the UK or Mainland Europe but I am unable to accept questions regarding safes made in the USA or elsewhere.


I have been in the UK safe industry for 40 years and have one of the largest archive databases of old safe literature and serial numbers in the country. I started with Chubb in 1960 and became Assistant Manager of their Bank Security Division before moving on to become the Insurance Liaison Manager with the John Tann Group. I became Sales & Marketing Director for Guardian Safes Limited before semi-retiring. I am a Fellow of the Security Institute and ex-Chairman of Eurosafe UK, a trade body representing the interests of UK safe makers and distributors. I now work as a part time consultant.

I am an advisor to the Safe Committee of the Association of Insurance Surveyors, a Fellow of the Security Institute and founding Chairman of Eurosafe UK.

I have had literally scores of articles published in various security trade publications. So far this year I have had 24 features published in various journals including Keyways, Professional Security, Pawnbroker and Safe India. I have published one book, Peckham Boy, the life and times of the world's greatest safe cracker.

No relevant educational credentials.

Awards and Honors
In 1997 I was awarded the annual shield by the Association of Insurance Surveyors for "..outstanding services to crime prevention"

Past/Present Clients
I have represented or been an agent for the John Tann Group (Stratford, Ratner, Dreadnought and Tann safes); Churchill Safes, Chubb Safe Co Ltd, SLS Safes, SMP Safes, Dudley Safes and several others

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