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I have a Yale safe that I'm unable to open. The safe has been placed into the wall of a closet in my home.

The combination is as such:

## - Left, 3 turns
## - Right, 5 turns
## Left, 1 turn

I have opened safes before, but I am dumbfounded why I can't get this one to open. Is the combination that I have for another safe? Thank you for your help.

Hi Jonathan

there are only three reasons that a safe lock won't open, in order they are:
1.   Incorrect dialing sequence, operator errors
2.   Incorrect combination, wrong numbers
3.   Mechanical problems

I don't know where you got that combination, but it isn't even close to being correct.   The dialing sequence for a standard Yale, 3 wheel lock is:

4 times right to the first number, ##
3 times left to the second number, ##
2 times right to the third number, ##
1 time left until the dial stops (should be around 5-10)

Note:   Left is counter clockwise, right is clockwise.  DO NOT count the revolutions of the dial, count the individual number as it arrives at the 12 o'clock index mark.

For instance if your first number is 50, you would turn the dial clockwise (right), stopping the fourth time the number 50 ARRIVES at the 12 o'clock index.

Yale had quite a variety of locks over more than 100 years of lock making, and there are variations depending on the lock installed, however NONE of them operate the way that you indicated in your combination.   Your combination is not for any safe lock.

Note:  many times combinations are passed on the way that a previous owner understands it and NOT necessarily the way that the lock works.

If this dialing sequence doesn't work, then I will need more (better) info about your safe and/or the lock to provide you with the actual dialing sequence for THAT lock.

If it still doesn't open, then you possibly need to have it checked out by a safe technician from a local safe company.

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