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QUESTION: I have a No. 5 fire-proof safe Diebold safe, I completely restored it and the Locksmith lost the latching bar in the lock assembly. need to find one or a drawing to have one made. The serial number is#13704
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ANSWER: Hi David,

Is the locksmith going to buy you a new one???    Parts and locks for antique safes are NOT going to be cheap!

Parts are not going to be available for antique safes or locks.    Locks which have been removed from safes are probably in someone's collection, and generally locks are "NOT" parted out, they are sold as complete units.

I'll need to see WHAT you actually have to determine what I can do to help you out.    I do have some drawings which have helped people fabricate parts in the past, but we need to be talking apples and apples, as oranges aren't going to be any help.

Send me photos of your lock, as well as reference measurements, or a scale drawing of the lock, so I can see what you have and what you might need.

You can send the info to me at:   andy@securitysafeusa.com



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QUESTION: Thank you Andy for the quick response, Attached are several photos of the lock assembly and I need the two flat plates that are in one of the attached photos I found which is not my lock. my lock is the one with the missing latch plates
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David,

I have no idea what a "latch plate" is???

I assume that you are asking about the lock "bolt" and "lever" assembly.

Send the photos to me - as requested - to my email address, as I won't remember this conversation tomorrow.

I answer questions on this volunteer site in the evenings at home - between now and tomorrow, I will have addressed several dozen other antique safe problems and/or emergencies.   if you don't send me an email - I will forget about it.    Sorry - not my fault - I'm claiming "old age"!   LOL

Again  -   andy@securitysafeusa.com

I've got a drawing out, but I will need to respond back to your email address and I won't have it UNTIL you email me directly.  

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

Experience

44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

Organizations
Safecrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association

Publications
The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes AllExperts.com

Education/Credentials
Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

Awards and Honors
2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

Past/Present Clients
US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service area is Northern California - Fresno to Oregon, including western Nevada

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