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Hi, do you u know the estimated cost to rekeying this safe, it opens no problem?  I want to weigh the cost of fixing the lock, moving it or just selling it.  It has to be moved out of the office by February and I might move it to my house, 12 miles away.  I am in Boston, Ma 02109 and do u know of Benton Locksmith, Boston, Ma thanks

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Hi Spiro,

First question, If it opens "ok - no problems", then what is the reason for rekeying it???

Second question, Do you even have any keys for it currently - or is the safe locked open, so the door opens and closes.

In general, I never recommend using locksmiths for safe work - even when it comes to making keys.    The majority simply do not have the skills or tools to work on safes.

I'm not familiar with "Benton Locksmith" so I can't recommend using them - you will have to discuss the project with them to determine if they have ever done this work before and/or if they have the capability.

Just because they express a desire to work on the safe, does NOT mean that they have the training or knowledge.

My recommendation would be for you to contact Phil Shearer at Hanover Safe & Lock in Hanover, MA.    Phil is one of the top safe guys on the east coast and he also runs lock defeat technology.    He has the tools and knowledge to make keys for your safe.    He may know of your locksmith and/or can recommend them.

You can contact Phil at:   781-871-4346

As far as the cost to "rekey" the safe, it will depend on access to the lock and bolt work.    While some of these safes had fairly easy access to the lock, others I've seen were buried under the insulation mortar.    Access to the lock is gained by chipping or cutting away the mortar.   Once the lock has been rekeyed and the bolt work serviced, the mortar is replaced to cover it up.

Also, as you didn't indicate "WHAT" problem the lock might be having, other than to indicate "fixing the lock", I can't answer that.   Any locksmith or safe company that has access to a small machine shop, or having machinist capabilities, should be able to make replacement parts and/or repair the lock.    Again, cost WILL depend on what the actual problem is, and WHAT type of access they have to the lock.

Similarly, as your safe possibly weighs between 1000 to 1500 lbs, it will require special equipment to move the safe, from its current location to a new site.

I know that you just wanted some type of "ball park" number, but as you can see it isn't quite as simple as that, there are a number of questions which must be answered.

As Phil is only around 20 miles from Boston, I would suggest that you contact him to discuss the project and all of your options.    He may need to come out to take a look at the safe, but after these and any other questions he has are answered, he should be able to give you a reasonable cost estimate to take care of your safe.

Hope this at least gets you moving in the right direction.

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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