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Hello I have a globe safe measuring 56 inches tall 25 deep and 25 wide. Has an eagle spin dial combination lock. Try to see or find the combination for. Hoping it maybe the trial combination . Any ideas. Thank you.louis.

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Hi Louis,

I don't know where everyone keeps coming up with this idea about "Trial Combinations" or "Default combinations", but I get this same question several times every day.

There simply are no trial combinations for 99% of the manufacturer's out there.   In general MOST manufacturers up until the 1960's used individual, unique combinations for ever safe made.   The few exceptions to these would be manufacturer's whose locks were extremely limited in the possible combinations available.    In these cases, you STILL aren't running "trial combinations", you are simply testing all of the possible combinations.

Manufacturers also NEVER published ANY info about combinations, serial numbers or any other similar items for obvious security and liability reasons.    Any such "listings" that MAY be online, were put together by locksmiths "LOOKING" for that magic number - which simply doesn't exist, and I've never found any of these lists which actually works.

Globe Wernicke ONLY made safes from about 1911-1917 when they were forced to quit because of a lawsuit brought about by the Safe Cabinet Company over patent infringements.   Several locks were used on their safes including both Yale and Eagle locks - both have the capability of 1,000,000 possible test combinations - though the Eagle locks have much fewer available combinations.    The three combination wheels in the Eagle locks had 22 positions available on each wheel, approximately 4 numbers apart, though the wheels could be either even numbers or odd numbers.   With no way of telling from the outside - you are pretty much back to your 1,000,000 possible test combinations.    

So bottom line you have two options available to you - you can make up a spreadsheet with every possible test combination, or you can hire a safe tech to open the safe for you.

If you don't have any local safe companies, let me know where you are located (zip code) and I'll see who I might know or recommend in your area.

Hope this helps,  

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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