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Customer call me with this safe. However I am not having any luck finding the proper drill point to open it. I
Typically I drill at 85. This one seems different. I notice a gear wheel inside. It looks like this on was one that Yale made for Carey. I am Pope Locksmith in shreveport louisiana and have a louisiana license F1103.  If you could help I would be greatfull.

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Hi Jack,

Disclaimer:    We do not give out any information concerning drilling or opening safes other than the dialing sequence which may be appropriate for the lock which should be installed on the safe in question, for obvious security and liability reasons.

As this is an OPEN forum we have no control over who reads the posts, and/or how they use the information.    

The three locks made by Yale, used on CARY safes, were the 062-1/2, the Y-6 and the M-16.   The lock on this safe is none of these, in fact more than likely it is a Yale OC-9 series lock, with three wheels, a front mounted, gear driven driver wheel, & friction fence.

Your drill point should be good, but you will need a good scope to see the wheels to decode the combination and/or open the lock.    In fact you should be looking at the drop in area, if you are looking down.

You are on the right track, and shouldn't need any further help - and NO additional holes.

The dialing sequence for this lock is:

4 times right to the first number,
3 times left to the second number,
2 times right to the third number,
1 time left until the dial stops - should be around 10.

Good luck with the lock.

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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