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I just acquired this beautiful old safe.

It is a Hall Marvin safe measuring approx 38"wide x 27"deep x 54" tall +wheels.  It is very heavy and appears to be in all original condition with no retouching ever. I have the combination and this safe functions very well.  I wondered if you had any more history for, me maybe age and original manufacturer? It looks to have been used by a company called Morris Hart Ind.

I have read in your other columns that "Hall Marvin Co" was a NYC based distributor-only of safes, so from the pictures can you tell me anything about this safe?  I have sent more detailed images to your email as instructed...  Thank you!!! :)

Hi Jeff,

Here is the response that I sent to you from my email -

Hi Jeff,

Sorry, but you DON'T have a "Hall-Marvin" safe.    This company was simply a distributor and NOT a manufacturer.    They sold safes made by other companies and simply relabeled them for advertising purposes.

Your safe appears to be what we would term a "skeleton" safe, having no insulation at all, and only minimal burglary protection.     It appears to be a Diebold Safe & Lock Company safe, from sometime around the early 1920's.

Without more info about the safe - I can only ball park the age.     Diebold was making similar containers from the 1890's thorough the 1930's - so this safe could have been made at any time during this period.

Morris Hart may have been the original owner - or at least an owner at some point.    You can do some history research on them to see if you can find out when they were in business.

As I don't research distributors, I have no idea when "Hall-Marvin" was in business, but based on the safes I've seen with their logo, I would place them from about 1915 to 1935ish.

Unfortunately this type of safe doesn't have a lot of "collector's value" unless you find someone that is going to use it as a display item, to display other collectibles.

Value on this safe - in current condition would be around:

Fire resistive:      $0   has none
Burglary      $0   doesn't meet current standards
Resale         $0   has no commercial or retail value.   Should NOT be used for overnight storage of cash, jewelry or valuable documents.
Antique/collectible:   $0   Not established as an antique, and too large for collectible.

Even though it has no value under the above categories, this doesn't mean that it has "no value".     If I was going to list it, it would be in the $500 to $800 range.     Restoration will improve its value.

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 40 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of two Tilton & McFarland Safes from the 1860's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


40 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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