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I have an old Remington and Rand Safe that I am trying to value so I can sell it.  The dimensions are 54.5"W X 72'H X 29" D.  Both lock handles have the work "Yale" on them.  There are combinations on both handles. Here are a few photos.  Thanks.

Hi James,

These safes, with the hidden doors were pretty cool.    The Yale locks were also unique, your lock is either going to be a Yale 072-1/2, 073, or 074 series lock.    This safe was made in the early 1950's (1950-55).     During the merger between Remington-Rand and the Sperry Corp. in 1955 to create Sperry-Rand, the safe manufacturing division was closed down and no more safes were made from these companies.

While the safe possibly has some value, it also has some problems that need to be addressed if you intend to try to sell it.    This safe manufacturer was a known user of asbestos as an insulation medium.    Most states have very strict HAZMAT polices concerning the selling of,  transportation of, and/or disposal of ANY item that is or has HAZMAT.    Asbestos falls into this category.

I would recommend your checking your local & state HAZMAT requirements before trying to sell, move or dispose of this safe.    Penalties FAR out weigh any value for non-compliance.

Once you determine what your responsibilities are - INCLUDING notifying the potential buyer that the safe has asbestos in writing - then you can consider selling the safe.

Also, unfortunately, these safes do not meet ANY current standards for fire resistance and they are not burglary resistive safes.    They do not have any commercial or retail value and they are not antique or collectible.    While they do have value as a general purpose storage container it may be a difficult sell.

Note:    Regardless of the careless TV advertisements concerning Asbestos by the ambulance chasing lawyers, Asbestos is ONLY dangerous IF it becomes airborne AND if you inhale it.   As long as the material stays sealed inside the walls of the safe it poses little danger - HOWEVER, many states basically have a zero tolerance when it comes to ANY HAZMAT, so you will have to check your local regs to see how it might affect you.

As far as value goes - IF you can get past the HAZMAT issues, it is possibly worth $350 to $400.   If you need it to go away rather quickly, be prepared to lower your asking price.

Sorry the answer isn't what you were hoping for.

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