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QUESTION: Andy,

How do I identify an appropriate professional in Salt Lake City or surrounding areas to help me open one of these safes?  Do you have someone you can recommend?

It is encased in a concrete wall and a house I just purchased.  I found 2 professionals in Utah on SAVTA's website.  Are these people appropriate?  I've read your previous responses about finding a safe technician and not relying on a locksmith.  However, it seems my searches primarily identify all locksmiths.

Thank you!
Emil

ANSWER: Hi Emil,

unfortunately, you don't have much of a choice in your area.

In general while MOST safe technicians are also locksmiths, Most locksmiths are rarely also safe technicians.     My shop is a perfect example.    While myself and one of my junior safe techs are trained locksmiths and safe technicians, my two journeyman safe techs have no locksmith experience other than a bit of hands on.      If you called us up and ask us to open your car because you lost or locked the keys inside I would show up with a large hammer and ask which window you don't need.    Similarly most locksmiths DON'T have the necessary training, knowledge and tools to work on safes without doing excessive damage.     The difference being that a PROFESSIONAL should be willing to tell you I can't do that type of work.    Problem is that most of these guys are businessmen first and professionals second or third.    They DO NOT want to turn any business away, and will attempt to take care of the problem many times at YOUR expense.

Safes like the Murphy wall safes are very specialized, and in fact many trained safemen have never even seen one, much less worked on one.

Bottom line, unless you are willing to pay for a professional safe technician to come from quite aways off, you are stuck with what's available in your area.    This means that YOU will have to decide if the company you call is qualified to do the work without destroying or ruining the safe.    In fact if the word "ruin" even comes up in the conversation you should probably walk away!

You can try the following company.    If they can't do the work, they may have a recommendation for someone in your area.    I come up to SLC every year or so to see relatives, however I have no plans in the immediate future for visiting.

Glens Key, Lock and Safe Company
801-355-1000
1147 South State Street
Salt Lake City, Utah   84111

Discuss the work with them to decide if you want them to do the work.   If you have specific questions concerning what they propose and/or pricing - feel free to run it by me first - before having them do the work.

Hope this helps, sorry I don't have a better solution.





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QUESTION: Thank you for taking time to answer me and research safe techs in my area.  I found Glen's also and will go ahead and speak with them.  Do you have any interest in taking a crack at the safe next time you're in Salt Lake CIty?

Emil

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Hi Emil,

Bottom line it depends on you.   I don't know when I will be in Salt Lake City, though I would like to be there before the end of the year.   If you can wait, then I'll add it to my schedule.   If, on the other hand you are curious and don't want to wait, then I would discuss the project with one of the local safe companies.    If they are not familiar with the safe and/or use the word ruin in the discussion, then I would recommend waiting.

As far as my taking a "crack" at the safe!  LOL,  We don't waste our time by trying, we will succeed.   LOL

If you decide to wait, send an email directly to me with your contact info to:    andy@securitysafeusa.com

I'll send you what my charges would be to open the safe for you - again though, I don't have a planned date for my next visit.  

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 40 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of two Tilton & McFarland Safes from the 1860's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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40 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

Organizations
Safecrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association

Education/Credentials
Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

Awards and Honors
2009 - 2013 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

Past/Present Clients
US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service area is Northern California - Fresno to Oregon, including western Nevada

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