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Thank you for the previous answer of yesterday (!

I bought a pretty rough safe I am hoping you can identify.  A few images are attached and I will follow previous guidance and send a emails directly to you with detailed photos.

The safe came with a combination, but it does not open with it! (Big Surprise!)  It appears the safe may have been drilled/damaged and the curved piece that engages with the slots in rotating wheels behind the combination knob has the wrong geometry to engage correctly and lower the part of the arm that blocks the handle from throwing the bolt.

Any information you can provide on any missing pieces to the interior lock works would be helpful.  The "arm" could be manufactured easily based on my initial observation.

I will send photos with the title "Blue safe" followed by a small descriptor.

Thank you in advance for your assistance and kind regards.  

If there is a way to donate to the allexperts forum or to assist you with your intended book please let me know.

Woody Walton

Hi Woody,

I look forward to seeing your photos.

Thank you for the offer to donate to help with the book, however the only thing I'm short of is time.   Too many projects, too much work (which I suppose isn't a bad thing as it pays the bills), too many requests by family members to help with their projects, etc. etc. etc.
Every time I get to a stopping point and/or a seemingly end - I come up with more and/or new info about someone I've already done research on or a new safe or company that I haven't researched.
I've discussed the book with a number of people who think I ought to just stop and print a first edition, and then continue researching for a second and/or third edition, however I would feel that I somehow cheated those that bought the first edition by not providing them with everything possible.    You know the Army's motto - "BE ALL THAT YOU CAN BE", well that should also apply to projects, ethics and principles as well.    
I've got a couple large research projects associated with the book that I would like to accomplish by next year which should bring me to a stopping point.    These include visiting some of the major cities that were hubs to the safe building industry, to gain some insight into the people and companies and their associations.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing your photos to help you with your project.  

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

Safecrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association

The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes

Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service area is Northern California - Fresno to Oregon, including western Nevada

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