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I have a functioning safe made by the Hall safe co. The handles are stamped 21130. I was wondering what the age of this safe is and wondered if I would be doing a disservice to tear out the tired inside and make this into a gun safe. Thank you for your time

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Hi Patrick,

The Hall's Safe Company was in business from 1896 until about 1929.   Your safe would have been made during the early 1900's - possibly 1903-1907.   Sorry there are no documents with exact dates of manufacturer.

As far as your doing a "disservice" to the safe, this is kind of a double answer question.

"IF" you are planning on restoring and selling the then turning the interior into a gun safe MAY restrict your possible purchaser base.

"IF" you are planning on restoring and installing the gun safe interior for YOUR use, then by all means go for it.

The way I look at it, is that the manufacturer of the safe built and intended the safe to be USED by owners to secure their valuables.    Doing this serves that purpose and honors the intent of the makers and inventors.    They never intended their safes to be display items only.

That being said, Having a working antique safe for a display AND as a functional safe is also very good.

Now for the bad news - sorry but as my job is to provide security I have to point out that this safe does not meet ANY current standards for burglary or fire protection.    I don't recommend storing ANY guns or valuables in it that can't be easily replaced in the event of a fire or burglary.

Hope this helps, if you have more questions feel free to run them past me.

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 44 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes". Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 Listed in AllExperts top 50 Experts. All Experts Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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