Arab Culture/About Muslim sects
Expert: Jamshaid Zubairee - 5/9/2008
QuestionAsalam Alaykum
I used to call my self a Sunni Muslim , if people would ask what am I Sunni or Shia I would say Sunni. Then I heard a Lecture on the internet by Dr Zakir Naik and some other lecturers as well and Dr Zakir Naik said All Muslims should be called Muslims. He said it is Haram to call your self these names before the word Muslim because it is a Diversion on Islam and there is only 1 Islam and all Muslims should be called Muslims and are in a Ummah and are brothers and sisters and these sects just divide us. And in the Quran it doesnt say the Prophets (Peace Be Upon Them) That they were Sunni Muslim or Shia Muslim it just says they were Muslims. We all should follow the Quran And Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). There are Sunni Hadiths and Shia Hadiths so which ones are we supposed to read. And what are the Hadiths exactly because im not sure and where/ who did they come from. And in Sunni and Shia there are in More sects such as Hanafi , Sufi , Maliki etc which I know where named after Imams but what do they do , do they follow what the imam did or something can you explain this and there are Karijite and Kalam which is another type of Muslims.
I would appreciate If you answered my questions even though there is a lot I have wrote.
AnswerW Salam Brother
Thanks for a so good question but please don't make such simple questions "Private" because in this way other people will not be able to read them on "View past answers" page and particularly when so mant other people are also facing the same problem.
Brother as you asked that you say that you are sunni but Dr. Zakir Naik says that it is prohibited to make sects in islam so we should not say that we belong to this or that sect we should say ourselves only Muslim.
So brother both of you are right i will tell you why!
There are two main sects in Islam Sunni and Shia. Actually Shia were those ignorent people who came under the influenec of "Abdulla Ibn Saba" [a Yamanite Jew who apparently became muslim to destroy Islam in the same way as the Saint Paul became Christian to destroy the "Original Christianity" that was preached by prophet Jesus peace be upon him and today Micheal Hart say that Paul had a greater influence on christianity than Jesus peace be upon him ]
Abdullah Ibn Saba used to preach in favour of Hazrat Ali RA in the times of Caliph Usman (Othman) RA in such a way that some people ouside the madina became in favour of Ali RA and started hating Usman RA and and later on killed him, this is a very long story if I started telling you in detail this page will become a book but keep in mind that these were the "Original Shia" people who apparently were in favour of Ali RA and used to call him as "Almighty God" so as a punishment a few of the were burnt alive by caliph Ali RA But Actually these people were under the influence of Abdullah Ibn Saba and were so powerful that Ali RA himself was afraid of them and they did not obey if his commands were not according to there whims.
If you see the "Nahjul Balagh (Berut eidition NOT Irani eidition that has been changed by shias)" a compilation of letters of Hazrat Ali RA you can see at many places Hazrat Ali calles his shias as hypocrite and says that they dont help him in war against Muaweia RA, again this will become too long and at 08-05-2008 is my Anatomy substage so I want to make it brief please don't mind.
Actually Abdullah Ibn Saba became able to organize a group of Hypocrite people who were actually trying to destroy Islam from the core of there hearts and these were the people who performed all those deeds mentioned above and below.
These were the shia people who later looted the goods of Hassan RA,the son of Ali RA, so that he declared that Mauweea RA is the right caliph and he (Hassan RA) has no right on it and ended the war on caliphate. Hassan Also denounced Shias.
Later those people who wrote latters to Husain Ra and called him to Kuffa were also shia and later instead of helping Husain RA they fought in the army of Yazid to kill Hussian RA in the battle of Karbala.
Brother Shia history is very long and you can find best material on Shia doctrines by "Sipah-e-sahaba" by Google search. This is the best organization which is exposing shias everywhere in Pakistan and many great leader (Haq Nawaz Ghangwi, Maulana azam Tariq etc) of this organization have been killed by Shias.
If you study shia doctrines you will come to know that Shiaism is NOT a sect it is a relegion created by jews just like the todays christianity created by Paul.
You should also think that "Why Shiaism spreaded in Iran and Iraq only?" It also has a good historic reason.
You can find a good book in Urdu with English headings by name Tarekh-e-Dastwaz at
http://www.esnips.com/user/Jam2000
This is that book
http://www.esnips.com/doc/c4e6dc3e-59ab-4b3c-9fd3-38bf0d79f7d8/Tarekh-e-Dastawai...
as for as the Kharji are concerned these were originally the followers of ALi RA but in the "Battle of Safeen" between Ali and Muaweea they they stoped fighting (against the commands of Ali) when the army of Muawea brought the Noble Quran in there front as a militry tactice Ali knew that it was again a plan of Muawea so he ordered them to contiue fighting but these people stopped anainst his orders and after that they also separated from Ali what Abu Musa made Muawea as caliph and they said that it was wrong and ali should fight against this dicision but Ali refused to do so because he had already said that he will follow whatever the discion may be and it is not allowed in Islam to move away from your words so they became against Ali RA and developed their own new doctrines and they used to kill every muslim who did not followed there way. These were very brave people and could start fighting with an army of 50000 even if they were 50. Later one of these killed the caliph Ali Ra.
In shia Hadith you can find good amount of mythology and scientific errors which show that these hadith are not from Prophet of God. We muslims believe that a true hadith can never be scientifically wrong and they contain the knowledge that was divine.
And you asked "what are the Hadiths exactly because im not sure and where/ who did they come from"
Hadith are the traditions of prophet Muhammad pbuh and they were narrated by his disciples later on.
There are 8 authentic hadith books they along with Noble Quran are the basic source of Islamic Jurisprudence. You can find a good knowledge of Hadith here
http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/sunnah/
You should follow only Sunni hadith. Following is an example of shia hadiths.
TERRIFYING BELIEFS OF SHI'ITES
Allaah often lies and does mistakes. (usool-e-kaafi, page #328, yaqoob kulaini, vol1).
The Munafiqeen (i.e. Sahaba) took very much out of Quran (took out the verses). (Ihtijaj-e-tibri, page #382).
When Imaam Mehdi comes he will bring with him the real and original Quran. (Ahsan-ul-maqaal, page #336, safdar Husain najfi).
The person who says that the present Quran is complete is a liar because the “complete Quran” was compiled by Hazrat Ali. (Fasl-ul-khitaab fee tahreef kitaab rab-ul- arbab, page #4, Noori Tibri).
Abu Bakr is kafir and the one who loves Abu Bakr is also kafir. (Faq-ul-yaqeen, page #690, Baqar majlisi).
Abu Bakr was kafir and Zandeeq. [naouzobillah](Kashf-ul-asrar, page #69, khamini).
There is no difference in Abu Bakr and mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani.[naouzobillah] (Jagir fidk, page #690, Ghulam Husain najfi).
Shia deny existance of Allah and Nabih
Neither we believe the Allah nor the Prophet of the God whose khalifah is Abu Bakr . (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #278).
I don’t believe in that Allah who gives government to Usman and Ma’avia. (Kashf-ul-asrar, page #107, Khamini).
Umar was a real kafir and Zandeeq. (Kashf-ul-asrar, Khaminee, page #119).
When imam Mehdi comes he will make alive Hazrat Aa'ishah from death and whip her. (Tafseer saafi, line 16, page #108).
Abu Bakr and Umar were agents of Iblees. (Hulyat-ul-mateen, mulla baqar majlisi).
Hazrat Khalid bin Walid was not saif-ullah but saif-us-shaitaan. (Manazir-o-baghdad, page #100).
All the Prophets will become alive from dead and start the jihad under the leadership of Hazrat Ali. (Tafseer ayyashee, page #181).
Real Quran that is compiled by Hazrat Ali will come with imam Mehdi. (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #360).
All Prophets are beggar at the doorstep of Ali. (khalqat-e-norania, page #201, Talib Husain karpalwi).
All the prophets and Angels are the slaves of the 12 imams except Mohammad . (kaleed manaazra, page #35, barkat ali).
12 imams are the teachers of all Prophets except Mohammad . (Majmoa-e-majalis, page #29).
When imam Mehdi comes he will hang Hazrat Abu Bakr and Umar at the holy grave of . (Majma-ul-ma’arif, page #49).
If Gabriel and Mekael had loved Abu Bakr then they would have been in hell too. (Ameer mukhtar, page #8, mirza basharat Husain).
After the death of all the Sahaba become MURTAD except three. (Roza-e-kafee, page #245)
Hazrat Anas Bin Malik, Abu huraira, Amr bin Aas, Ameer Ma’avia and Aa'ishah were worst people of all times. (Makalmaat-e-husainia, page #59).
Man can have Nikah (marriage) with man and his mother, sister and daughter too. (Firqa-ul-shiat, Abi Mohammad-ul-Hasan Bin Moosa).
Hazrat Abu Bakr was Mushrik, Umar was Munafiq and Usman was Kafir. (Shia’an-e-ali aur inn kee shaan, page #54, ghulam husain najfi).
When imam Mehdi come he will be nude and the first person who Bay’ah him is Mohammad . (Haq-ul-yaqeen, page #347, Baqar majlisi).
Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) was the leader of the Munafiqeen (hypocrites).
Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had prayed for the murder of Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu).
The day on which Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu), was murdered by the Persian kafir, Lu'lu', is the most auspicious day of the year.
Aa'ishah and Hafsah martyred Rasulullah by giving him poison. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #870, Baqar Majlisi).
Thus these two male munafiqs (referring to Abu Bakr and Umar) and those two female munafiqs (referring to Aa'ishah and Hafsah) agreed to martyr Rasulullah by administering poison to him. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #745, Baqar Majlisi)
this was taken from
http://s7.invisionfree.com/ashhad4u/ar/t3580.htm
You can find best information about islamic sects at
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links
As for as your question about sects with in sunni sect, brother these are NOT sects they are simply schools of Islamic Jurisprudence and thay all are sincere muslims ( it means Hanfi, Shafi, Malki,Hunmbli etc)
For sunni the status of Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik,Imam Shafi and Imam Ahmad Bin Humble is NOT like of Shia Imam who has super natural powers and has complete knowledge of every thing (past,present and future etc)
Brother I think I have also written so much (but still I feel that I have not done my job due to my Anatomy Substage I am ending it Sorry) but if you need further help feel free to contact me again
Anyhow saying yourself as sunni to indentify that you are NOT Shia is ALLOWED in Islam. OK!