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Hiya scott! just a curious question i have to ask hehe, do the stars ( sun signs ) really work with thom you are compatable with? I was dating an libra guy and thats who im most comptable with and it didnt work out? I am now seen a capricorn guy and things are amazing, theres chemistry there and everything i didnt have with ex. Do you think         Aquarius (me) and capricorn get on well?

and im also curious to know, what happends if a mother gives birth to a child that she does not get on with well, say Aquarius and i have a baby who was born leo, how would that go? I feel i dont connect with leos i also have a friend who  is leo but im not to keen on her as shes to much in my face?

thanks x

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Hi Nicole,

To answer your question directly, yes, comprehensive astrology and numerology absolutely outline compatibility, romantic and otherwise. But Sun-sign-only comparisons are meaningless, to be candid.

You must look at much more than simple Sun signs. The Sun sign is just one of hundreds of aspects that comprise the patterns in the comprehensive charts.

You aren't "most compatible" with Libra Sun people, having an Aquarius Sun, to be blunt (although the two air signs, by themselves, are largely harmonious). :) You are much more than just a Sun sign. It's unfair to say you are compatible with one sign and not another since, again, the Sun sign is just the Sun sign. Considering all the aspects and all the patterns, you could have wonderful compatibility with five randomly chosen Libra Sun people, and also have terrible compatibiliy with another five randomly chosen Libra Sun people.

To answer your other question, the signs of Aquarius and Capricorn are air/fixed/masculine and earth/cardinal/feminine, respectively, so just comparing the signs, there isn't much harmony. But again, you must look at all the charts' contents when contemplating compatibility.

Below are two articles I co-wrote with my brother, Stephen. First is "Best Astrology Matches For Me?" and the second is "Can Two People Be Incompatible?" Both relate to your question.

If you would like to read more, follow this link to other, related columns:
http://www.howisyourlovelife.com/column.htm

Sincerely,
Scott Petullo
http://www.scottpetullo.com
http://www.mystictwins.com

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The Mystic Twins Scott and Stephen Petullo

June 23, 2006

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Subject: “Best Astrology Matches for Me?”

Dear Scott and Stephen,

I have a Libra Sun sign and a Cancer Moon sign and I
would like to know what are the best romantic matches
for me. Also, can astrology really determine if I am
destined to meet someone and when that may happen?
Astrologers I’ve talked with don’t tell me the years or
months that I’ll meet someone, or they tell me that my
future isn’t set and that I can create whatever I want.
Your thoughts?

Thanks, Geraldine

Scott and Stephen’s Response:

Dear Geraldine,

First, we believe that the comprehensive astrology and
numerology charts must be scrutinized if one wants to
consider true personality, compatibility, and personal
timing (prediction and forecasting).

Also, thorough handwriting analysis done by a well-trained professional adds a great deal of additional
insight about subconscious character, much of which
that can’t be found through modern, psychological
astrology.

On the surface, you may think you have great astrological
compatibility on paper with two seemingly easy-going,
compassionate people (signified in part, for example, by
both having an abundance of Pisces and Cancer energy).

However, it’s discovered that one has very compressed,
narrow, extreme right-slanted, sharp, angular, heavy
pressure script with rigid baselines and downward slanting, weak-ending, pointed letter t-bars. Plus, strong patterns of over-balanced “8” and “1” energy are found in the comprehensive numerology charts. All of this with
other corroborating information alerts the analyst to
the strong possibility of that person being a domineering
abuser.

The other person’s comprehensive charts involve, in
part, lots of under-balanced “2” energy which suggests
dependency and self-deprecation. In support of these
notions, that person’s script includes martyr/victim traits such as small overall script size, light writing pressure, close word spacing, excessively rounded and immature-looking writing, droopy rhythm and connectives
between letters, pinched circle letters, low and weakly
crossed letter t-bars back to the left instead of to the right, and x-formations where the letter x is not present.

In this case, a surface astrology interpretation would
unfortunately leave open the potential for a very toxic,
if not dangerous match.

An aside, psychology was not part of astrology until
about 100 years ago. The approximately 2000 year
tradition of the science of astrology involves mostly
prediction instead of psychological character analysis.
Unfortunately, in our view, most astrology found today
in print or on-line is primarily modern, psychological
astrology, and involves a frivolous and distorted
approach to the science.

Astrology that’s largely for entertainment only
(although usually not presented as such) includes,
for example, Sun or Moon sign horoscopes, and
readings done by astrologers who commonly promote
falsehoods such as, “...(numerology or) astrology isn’t
predestination or fate...how things play out is going to
be up to you,” stated to cover a refusal to do in-depth
delineation, or mask an inability to do accurate
prediction.

Some popular modern astrologers even go so far as to
offensively suggest escapism, wishful thinking, self-
fulfilling prophesies, and a failure to take responsibility for one’s actions and life in response to the idea that some astrologers and numerologists (like us) say it’s possible to measure and outline personal fate (i.e., impart the general inclination of fate, and frequently, even precise future circumstances and events). Worse, they deny that fate exists, and also deny the reality that varying degrees of unavoidable adversity (which is also measurable) in people’s lives serves a divine purpose.

The truth is that their form of astrology or numerology
isn’t about predestination or fate and that original ancient predictive astrology and numerology are absolutely about predestination and fate.

It’s ironic how fully embracing the concepts of karma and fate is directly related to taking responsibility for one’s actions and that much of the modern astrology found
today offers mainly an escape from the hard realities of
life.

Reviewing Sun Signs, Moon Signs, or any other individual
aspect without considering the rest of the charts’ contents and patterns within those charts, will only give you surface insight. It tells you virtually nothing about the reality of the personality, or the compatibility between you and another person.

For example, the Sign of Aquarius is considered to be
relatively harmonious with the Sign of Sagittarius. If
you select ten random people with Aquarius Sun Signs
and match them with ten people with Sagittarius Sun Signs,
it’s entirely possible that none of them will get along with each other. It’s also entirely possible that all of them will get along.

The best romantic matches for a Libra Sun and Cancer
Moon combination depends entirely upon the health of
the respective planets (strong and well, or involving
afflictions including planets in detriment, badly aspected
planets, weak house placement, retrogrades, etc.), their
rulers and the health of those rulers, along with the rest
of the several hundred aspects, and patterns comprised
of those aspects, throughout the comprehensive charts
of each person.

It’s possible for a person with a Libra Sun and Cancer
Moon to have wonderful compatibility with a person
with an Aries Sun and Capricorn Moon, both oppositions.

Oppositions are commonly considered to involve poor
compatibility, but sometimes very close oppositions
(opposing planets that are very tightly aspected by a
degree or two, within the compatibility charts) offer
more reward than challenge, especially if the remaining
composite contents are harmonious.

Oppositions are as follows:
Aries is opposed to Libra.
Taurus is opposed to Scorpio.
Gemini is opposed to Sagittarius.
Cancer is opposed to Capricorn.
Leo is opposed to Aquarius.
Virgo is opposed to Pisces.

Conjunctions, same sign combinations, represent
intensification of the sign’s energy, and is sometimes
positive and sometimes negative. Generally, it’s a
“hard” aspect, and not as easy flowing as trines and
sextiles.

Although we feel that modern astrology places too
much emphasis on Ptolemaic aspects, it’s good to
have an understanding of them.

The basic, major Ptolemaic aspects include oppositions
(180 degree angle), conjunctions (0 degree angle),
squares (90 degree angle), trines (120 degree angle),
and sextiles (60 degree angle).

Square aspects are combinations of signs that are of
different elements (see below), like Taurus with Leo,
and generally indicate challenge and tension. Trine
aspects are combinations of signs that are of the same
element, such as Scorpio with Pisces, and are generally
agreeable. Sextile aspects are combinations of signs that
are of compatible, but different, elements such as Cancer
with Virgo, or Leo with Libra, and are also generally
favorable.     

If you accept the trivial approach of reviewing only the
Sun and Moon signs, which might offer a preview at best,
then it’s good to look at the elemental combinations of the signs for some basic awareness.

On the surface, fire and air are harmonious, and earth and
water are harmonious. In addition, each element commonly
mixes well with itself (fire and fire, etc.).

Fire signs are Aries, Leo, and Sagittarius
Earth signs are Taurus, Virgo, and Capricorn.
Air signs are Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius.
Water signs are Cancer, Scorpio, and Pisces.

To answer your question, a surface approach will
involve Libra Sun, Cancer Moon compatibility with
an air or fire Sun, along with a water or earth Moon,
but that’s just the beginning.

If you want to go a little deeper, yet still not get into
comprehensive analysis, considering the nature of the
sign is also helpful (Fixed, Mutable, or Cardinal), as is
considering the masculine or feminine nature of the sign
(fire and air are masculine, and earth and water are
feminine).

We also strongly recommend contemplating each
person’s personal timing when considering compatibility.  

Personal timing, comprised of scores of short, medium,
and long-term continuous and non-continuous numerological
and astrological cyclical timing methods, regularly
symbolically makes or breaks relationships. The collective
cycles can be divided into groups that are the basis for
pattern recognition.

Two people can seemingly have nothing in common aside
from their current personal time cycles (some as short as
a day, others as long as many years), and when those time cycles change, the relationship changes, or even
dissolves.

It should be noted that we understand that it is possible
for someone who has strong, solid psychic ability and a
good, general understanding of astrology to successfully
use Sun and Moon signs exclusively as psychic touchstones.
But few have this talent where they can get consistent,
accurate reads without a comprehensive approach.

Again, an astrologer must consider all comprehensive
charts in determining compatibility, along with the
comprehensive timing charts, and not just the Sun and
Moon signs if one really wants to uncover existing
compatibility. Again, we have found that you also must
consider the comprehensive numerology charts, along with
handwriting analysis (subconscious fears and defenses, etc.), if you want a high level of accuracy.

A skeptic saying that they “...don’t believe in astrology,” to us, is a reasonable and understandable statement if they have only been exposed to Sun Sign astrology, which is the basis for most astrology horoscopes today.  

Comparing Sun Sign astrology to an in-depth analysis
as referred to in the above paragraphs is like comparing
conspiracy theory half-truths to confirmed CIA intelligence.

In Light,
The Mystic Twins

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Scott Petullo
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Subject: Can Two People Be Incompatible?

Dear Scott and Stephen,

I've met someone whom I can't seem to live without,
yet we seem to be incompatible in too many ways. But
I want it to last because I think we're meant for each
other. I went to an astrologer and he said that no two
people are incompatible; it's just a matter of how much
work you're willing to do. And if you're deeply enough
in love, then no amount of effort is too much. I'd like
your opinion about that and also about our compatibility.
I've included my and his birth data.

Thanks,
Alicia

Scott and Stephen's Response:

Dear Alicia,

Based on what you say and our analysis of the
comprehensive charts, you've met one of those people
with whom you are drawn together like magnets yet the
compatibility is questionable. Aside from sexual passion,
it won't be smooth sailing to say the least, and trying to
make it permanent may be akin to strapping a 45lb weight
to your back for the rest of your life. Since it's entirely up to you to decide, we won't tell you to stay or go, but we can give you our feedback.

Might the inability to part ways, the intense draw, be a
mysterious working of fate? Yes. "Soul mate" connections
very often include plenty of strife and heavy lessons,
without the presumed romantic bliss.

Based on our comprehensive astrology and numerology
work, two people can absolutely be incompatible, yet they
may stay together for other reasons. Know that person A
might have great overall compatibility with person B, but
not with person C. Varying, unique degrees of intellectual, emotional, spiritual, physical and sexual compatibility exist between every couple.

As for no amount of effort being "too much" to save a
relationship if you are deeply in love, we recommend
first looking at what "deeply in love" means to you.
What exactly do you feel for the person and why? Is there
an early life, dysfunctional dynamic being played out for
either or both of you? Is the connection held together by
guilt due to one or both of you being afraid to walk away?
Exactly how much sacrifice is involved for you or him?
Is it really a great connection, or is it more about what
they do for you or voids they fill for you? Are you afraid
to be alone? Are you concerned about financial security?
You've got to be brutally honest with yourself if you want
clarity.

You say you think you are meant for each other, but It's
important to keep in mind that every person you meet is
for a different reason, or reasons. It's not easy to overrule your heart and be totally objective in your romantic life, but it will save you heartache. Dating is easier when you accept each situation for what it is instead of trying to cast a play (husband or wife role, provider, etc.). We discussed this in a previous column last November:

http://www.holisticmakeover.com/Nov10th2006.htm

To help you understand more about romantic compatibility, we'll list some of our findings. We have yet to invalidate
the following considerations through our extensive work
over the years: some romantic connections include
questionable compatibility, but the shared or compatible
timing (long-term or short-term) serves as the foundation
of the draw; some connections are horrible, but the
"unexplainable" draw is intense and serves to help them
fulfill the karmic implications of this particular "soul
mate" connection (one or both "owe" each other in not so
pleasant ways); some people have great life-long love
karma, some people have fair life-long love karma, and
others have terrible life-long love karma; one's personal
timing (long-term and, or short-term), if very good in
relation to love-life, can symbolically, somewhat mitigate
one's life-long challenging love-life karma; one's personal timing, if very challenging in connection with love, can symbolically wreck one's love life even if they have great life-long love karma (as reflected in the patterns in the comprehensive charts).

We feel that a highly compatible match does not need a lot
of "work" or compromise. If you are complete by yourself
and have your life together, finding someone to share it
with should not require you to give up your goals, friends, hobbies, or what you've worked hard for.

At the same time, compatible, harmonious matches that also
share a high degree of sexual chemistry are few and far
between for most people. Some people would rather be with
someone who is semi-compatible, or not compatible at all
instead of being alone. Others are content to be alone and
concentrate on other areas of their life, like career, until they meet someone they feel is worth sharing their time with. It's up to you, yet our work tells us that people are largely going to do what they are predestined to do, so as long as you remain objective and respond with compassion and unconditional love, you'll be fine.

In Light,

The Mystic Twins
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http://www.mystictwins.com

Scott Petullo
http://www.scottpetullo.com

Stephen Petullo
http://www.holisticmakeover.com

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Please note: I DON'T DO PERSONAL READINGS HERE. That means if you ask for a free reading, your question will be rejected.

I'm happy to answer general astrology questions, such as identifying a particular Moon sign or Sun sign that happens to be on the cusp, or identifying an Ascendant (Rising sign) or a ruler (or rulers) of a particular house, etc.

As an example, you might ask, "My 7th house (house of partnerships, relationships, etc.) cusp sign is Virgo, so which planet rules the house considering I have no planets in that house?"

Or, you might ask, for instance, "My natal Sun is on the cusp, in which sign is it?"


Again, I WON'T DO PERSONAL READINGS HERE. Also, if your question relates to modern, psychological astrology, I won't answer it since the bulk of my predictive work is done using more ancient forms (I find them far more accurate). I won't answer questions about Chinese astrology or Vedic/Hindu astrology either.

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