Astronomy/Moon Phases

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I was in Costa Rica mid january 08 and saw a quarter moon in the evening in the western sky. It was like a horizontal saucer that you could fill with water.
All calendars show moon phases in a vertical position.
Is the quarter moon also like an upside down saucer sometimes? Is there a site I can see real pictures of the phases as they actually appear?

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Hi Trevor,
Yes, you are talking about the angle that the quarter  (or crescent) moon makes with the closest horizon, and relative to your direction of gravity, thus the "saucer filled with water" concept.  This is all dependent on.... where on the ecliptic (plane of the sun-Earth) the quarter or crescent moon is located.
Sometimes the ecliptic at quarter moon makes a very steep angle
to the horizon, (like December and January)  so the quarter moon appears as you saw.  Other times of the year, the ecliptic makes a very shallow angle to the horizon so the quarter moon appears nearer the vertical position.  So it varies with the month of the year, and whether you're seeing a last quarter around midnight rising in the east, or a first quarter around midnight, setting in the west.

Your first quarter moon in January was in Pisces near the Vernal Equinox so the ecliptic makes it's steepest angle to the western horizon at that time.  Check it out again, the first quarter moon setting on June 9-10-11 time frame, and you'll see a first quarter moon setting in the west that is nearly vertical. (The opposite of what you saw).  Your location doesn't matter, as that
only "moves" the lunar disk slightly north or south in our night
sky, due to parallax.
Calendars only print the symbol for quarter phase by convention,
and the way the quarter moon is viewed most of the time in our sky,
NOT necessarily at moonset time.  Most of the time when viewed in
our night sky, like high in the south, the quarter moon is in the near-vertical position, thus I guess calendar makers picked the most
convenient, and most seen, symbol.  We already know the moonset
appearance will vary by the angle of the ecliptic to the horizon,
from month to month, as you reported.
The best program I know to see the relative position of the moon
setting to the horizon is the "night sky" view of Google Earth...so
if you have Google Earth, punch up the night sky component, and
that program accurately displays the moon's setting appearance relative to your horizon.
Hope all this helps,
Clear skies,
Tom Whiting
Erie, PA  

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Astronomy has been my hobby/pasttime for over 50 years.  Currently own 3 telescopes, the largest of which is a 30 inch Newtonian truss Dob that is portable.I taught Astronomy/Meteorology at the University Level for 13 years before retiring in 1995. Being retired and home most of the time, I am able to answer all questions relatively quickly, unless it's a new moon weekend with good observing conditions.  No astrology questions please, or questions about alleged UFO picture identifications.

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Experience: Astronomy has been my hobby and study for over 50 years. We currently now own a 30 inch portable telescope (Updated - Pennsylvania`s largest portable telescope). It can be seen on our website at:http://www.velocity.net/~bwhiting and also attend several regional starparties during the year, and have been on 5 total solar eclipse expeditions.

Organizations: President, Erie County Mobile Observers Group for over 15 years.

Publications: Wrote the "Over Erie Skies" newspaper article in our local newspaper for 11 years (1975-86).

Education: Masters Degree- Taught at the University level for 13 years. Retired 20 years -USAF Pilot - KC-135 with 180 combat missions;  Also Eagle Scout, Philmont staff 2 Yrs, Order of Arrow Lodge Chief, Ham Radio (inactive).

Awards: two discoveries: The mini-coathanger asterism in Ursa Minor (the little dipper) And the mini-ladle- another asterism in the bowl of Ursa Minor. Clients: Currently President of the ECMOG as mentioned above.

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BS  Metallurgical Engineering Grove City College, PAMaster's Degree, Gannon University, Erie, PA Also retired USAF pilot, 20 years.

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