Astronomy/the sun

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hi tom, i always enjoyed reading your articles online. but i have a question for you today.. how far out in space would one have to travel before our sun becomes invisible to the unaided eye to an astronaut with 20/20 vision?  i'm guessing around 55-60 light years.  what do you think?  thank you in advance   dan

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Hi Dan,
Yes, that would be pretty close for an older astronaut....double
10 parsecs would be 20 pcs or about 65 ly....about 1/4 dimmer, and a magnitude increase of about 1.5, and 4.8 + 1.5 = 6.3 apparent magnitude, near the average human eye limit.

It wouldn't be the visual acuity of the astronaut, it would be
more....his or her age.  Yes, the younger you are, the dimmer
the star you can see because your pupil opens wider, so a young
20-something age human (with super-excellent vision) can perhaps see down close to 7th, even 7.3 apparent magnitude objects, where a 40-something age astronaut may only see down to a more average 6th- 6.5 magnitude objects. So the question really is, at what distance does the sun drop below 6th or 7th magnitude to the human eye.

We know the inverse square law...objects emitting radiation drop off as the square of the distance...and we also know that each magnitude change is 2.5 times dimmer for each successive whole number rise in magnitude, on an exponential scale.  We also know that the sun has an Absolute magnitude of +4.8, (what it's apparent magnitude would be if 10 pc distant)...so if you triple the distance to 30 parsecs, you get an object 1/9th as bright, or about 2 1/2 magnitude increases....4.8 plus 2.5 = magnitude of 7.3....so a very young astronaut might just barely see the sun at triple 10 parsecs, or 30 parsecs or right around 100 ly.  So anywhere from 65 to 100 ly, depending on your age.
Clear Skies,
Tom Whiting
Erie, PA
PS....also 10 parsecs = 32.6 ly which I'll bet you already know.
And BTW, 20/20 is only average, 20/15 is far better, and 20/10 is
perfect for only one in a million people have 20/10 vision in both
eyes. (I was blessed with 20/15 vision according to the USAF).
tom  

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Astronomy has been my hobby/pasttime for over 50 years.  Currently own 3 telescopes, the largest of which is a 30 inch Newtonian truss Dob that is portable.I taught Astronomy/Meteorology at the University Level for 13 years before retiring in 1995. Being retired and home most of the time, I am able to answer all questions relatively quickly, unless it's a new moon weekend with good observing conditions.  No astrology questions please, or questions about alleged UFO picture identifications.

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Experience: Astronomy has been my hobby and study for over 50 years. We currently now own a 30 inch portable telescope (Updated - Pennsylvania`s largest portable telescope). It can be seen on our website at:http://www.velocity.net/~bwhiting and also attend several regional starparties during the year, and have been on 5 total solar eclipse expeditions.

Organizations: President, Erie County Mobile Observers Group for over 15 years.

Publications: Wrote the "Over Erie Skies" newspaper article in our local newspaper for 11 years (1975-86).

Education: Masters Degree- Taught at the University level for 13 years. Retired 20 years -USAF Pilot - KC-135 with 180 combat missions;  Also Eagle Scout, Philmont staff 2 Yrs, Order of Arrow Lodge Chief, Ham Radio (inactive).

Awards: two discoveries: The mini-coathanger asterism in Ursa Minor (the little dipper) And the mini-ladle- another asterism in the bowl of Ursa Minor. Clients: Currently President of the ECMOG as mentioned above.

Education/Credentials
BS  Metallurgical Engineering Grove City College, PAMaster's Degree, Gannon University, Erie, PA Also retired USAF pilot, 20 years.

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