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Hello,
  My Ford 150 pickup was hit, there is some frame damage, and the claims adjuster said it could be repaired, but when the truck was towed to the auto body shop they refused it because they said it is not repairable. Who's right should they send another adjuster to look at it.
We like our truck but want it to be a safe vehicle.    Thank you,
            Lisa J.  

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I understand how you feel Lisa. It's awful being caught in the middle between two parties who both say the are right.

The truth is that it's really not a case of "right" or "wrong".  
Collision repair is a subjective art and science.  If you put 50 insurance adjusters and 50 body techs and 50 more body shop sales personnel on the same estimate, you'll likely get at least 50 different repair methodologies.  

In many cases, no one really "knows" what is repairable until they've tried to repair it.  It comes down to the efficiency of the equipment, the exact location and extent of damage and the talent of the technician.  Unfortunately, nowadays it also comes down to what the shop finds as the most profitable type of work to perform.  If they've got 10 very profitable jobs lined up, then that 11th one that takes too much time will be deemed a total loss to save face.  Now, if the bend extends past a certain angle (known as a kink), or is in a suspension or body mounting area or a designed crumple zone, it is not repairable.

There are several steps in the estimating and repair process.  First there is the initial estimate that the insurance company wrote, likely before the truck was torn down to show the full extent of damage.  Keep in mind that they are called "estimates" for a reason.  The next step is to tear down the vehicle and submit a supplement for hidden damage.  Sometimes, the insurer will ask the shop to go ahead and do a pull on the frame to see if it's going to straighten at this stage.  If they are able to get it into spec at this stage without tearing it or using excessive heat, then it's likely repairable.  Then they will proceed with the supplement.  If it doesn't straighten at this stage, then the insurance company can either choose to replace the frame or total the vehicle.  

It's possible that the shop is now seeing something that the adjuster couldn't or didn't see on the first estimate.  It's possible that this shop simply isn't very good at frame repair.  It's possible that the adjuster is not experienced enough with this particular damage scenario.  

What I would recommend is that you have them set up an appointment with yourself, the shop manager, the adjuster and a second party from the insurance companies such as the adjuster's supervisor or a more senior adjuster.  Such a meeting to view the damages will keep everyone straight and will eliminate a lot of the posturing that goes on between shops and adjusters.

Please feel free to let me know how it's going and I'd appreciate your feedback.

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Auto damage, liability, insurance fraud. I am a full time auto insurance adjuster with experience in collision, theft, liability and fraud investigation. I am also an ASE Master Auto Tech and I-Car Collision Platinum certified. My experience includes 15 years in the auto repair industry, a B.S. in Criminal Justice, Law enforcement and auto insurance. ****** NO "PRIVATE" QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED. I HAVE FOUND THAT NEARLY ALL PRIVATE QUESTIONS COME FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSIDERING OR ATTEMPTING TO COMMIT FELONY INSURANCE FRAUD AND I'M NOT HERE TO HELP YOU! ****** I AM HERE TO ANSWER AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, CLAIMS PROCESS AND SOME SIMPLE LIABILITY QUESTIONS. I CANNOT ADDRESS COMPLEX LIABILITY SCENARIOS WITHOUT HAVING ALL OF THE INFO FROM BOTH SIDES IN FRONT OF ME. QUESTIONS ABOUT PREMIUMS OR HOW INSURANCE IS RATED SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO YOUR PERSONAL INSURANCE AGENT WHO KNOWS A WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT YOUR HISTORY THAN I DO. I'VE NEVER SOLD INSURANCE AND DO NOT KNOW IF YOUR INDIVIDUAL INSURANCE RATES WILL GO UP IF YOU MAKE A CLAIM. THOUGH I'VE HANDLED SOME VERY MINOR SOFT TISSUE INJURY SETTLEMENTS, I PREFER NOT TO ANSWER INJURY RELATED QUESTIONS. I'M NO INJURY EXPERT AND I'LL LIKELY SAY SOMETHING TO HURT SOMEONE'S FEELINGS AS I BELIEVE THAT MANY SOFT TISSUE PAIN AND SUFFERING CLAIMS ARE OVER DRAMATIZED. UNLIKE MANY OTHERS, I AM ON THIS FORUM AS A VOLUNTEER WITH NO PRODUCTS OR SERVICES TO SELL AND PROMISE AN UPFRONT ANSWER BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE IN BOTH SIDES OF THE INDUSTRY. IF YOU PROVIDE ME WITH A HONEST VERSION OF EVENTS, I PROMISE A CANDID AND HONEST ANSWER IN RETURN. I CANNOT ADDRESS ALL CLAIM SCENERIOS DUE TO DIFFERING STATE LAWS AND REGULATIONS, BUT WILL DO MY BEST. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT AN HONEST ANSWER MAY BE ONE THAT YOU DON'T LIKE SO IF THAT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, PLEASE DON'T ASK THE QUESTION. LASTLY, I DO NOT ACCEPT RATINGS AS I DON'T DO THIS FOR RATINGS AND WISH TO SPEAK FREELY.

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20 years in automotive industry, Currently in insurance claims, worked actively as technician and shop owner until about 10 years ago. Current ASE Master Auto Tech and I-Car Platinum Collision Certifications, B.S. Criminal Justice and 10 year auto insurance/extended warranty background

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