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Hi, In May 2007 my boyfriend truck was stolen.
Since then his business has folded & we are in debt to not only everyone but also the insurance company.
They did everything but accuse him of stealing his own truck. Apparently it is not possible to steal the truck. However we have heard from various mechanics that this isn't true, however despite repeated attempts to get them to reopen our case they have so far ignored all our letters even the recorded delivery ones.
Reasons for denying the claim..included..
The truck had a fuel immobilize omit. Although we have been told that these are often disconnected & since partner bought truck 2nd hand it is not a legal requirement to sell with this information.
The doors have immobilizes fitted to respond to attempts to break windows.
& the time frame of 40 mins is not enough time because the mechanics from ford state it would take 4.5 hrs & expert knowledge to steal one.
Ironically 7 others of the same make all went missing in the same area. But for us I think it is too late to do anything??
& 4 times they have tried to tell him that he has a 2nd set of keys that he has told them about, which he never had.
The other one which we know is wrong is that they have asked him to supply all the names of everyone present in a pub that witness him being in the pub???
Hello,
What you need to understand is that the truth has nothing to do with any of this.
In fact, insurance companies commonly use locksmiths under the cover of the "forensic" title to examine these vehicles.
If the locksmith states (because of his ignorance on theft methods) that the vehicle can't be stolen, you are screwed!
These experts that the insurance companies commonly use in many cases don't have a clue as to how vehicles are stolen, deflect the issue and turn the claim into "How hard is it to make a key for that specific locksmith with his limited knowledge" on auto theft methods.
Once one of these reports is submitted into the insurance claim "investigative" arm, they build a purely circumstantial case against the insured.
There are a few honest investigators in this field, however, many of these investigators are ex-cops that believe no one except for the "forensic" expert, because he comes off as the all-knowing. Then it is just a matter of the insurance expert schmoothing a judge or jury making them believe that the insured was involved in the theft.
I have walked in your shoes. I have had my credibility attacked and those that I have successfully opposed have gone out of their way to destroy me. They could not beat me in my training, background, experience or common sense methodology.
Instead, they lied (no I didn't say misrepresent) about me, used the cowardly way of sending annonymous letters to the federal government about me, tried to have me charged with federal perjury and withholding funds. They attemptted to severely injure my good name and assisted in destroying my 20-year marriage.
Yet, when I was totally exonerated of all charges based on "Annonymous Allegations" and the federal case against me was closed, there was no mention of that.
Insurance companies are more than glad to take your money for the policy, but when it comes time to pay out on a claim involved in having a so-called anti-theft system, they will spend $100,000 to defend a $20,000 claim. They will ruin your reputation, they don't care!!!!
As I keep stating: What gives the insurance companies so much credibility in these claims? The people that manufacture the vehicle don't state the vehicle can't be stolen. I am not speaking at dealership level. If they could stop theft, they would warranty against theft.
Instead, we are left believing the insurance company and in most cases a questionable expert that is using his own personal lack of knowledge construed as fact.
There is not a vehicle out there that can't be force entered or stolen!
If there was a real good attorney out there wanting to make a name for him or herself, they would sue the makers of these vehicles for fraud. They blatantly call these "anti-theft" systems when these systems do not stop theft.
I had a case against Ford in which it was stated that the Securilock was impossible to defeat. The dealers said this, the expert locksmiths said this.
On 10/10/2000, I defeated this system with one wire for a judge on video!
I supplied this process to others in my field. They made supporting videos and the consensus was that my process was valid on all Ford trucks and SUVs from 1998-2003 and probably farther, but that was only the vehicles involved in my testing.
A locksmith was not looking at this system as a thief. He was looking at it as a locksmith, someone making a key for the vehicle. The dealer mechanics went by what they wre told by Ford.
I looked at this from the perspective of an auto technician and a thief, with not only my ability to read schematics, but also with my experience in the direct repair of more than 10,000 theft recoveries. An experience, not one of these expert forensic locksmiths has working for the insurance companies. I paid my dues working on this junk!
Yet, in court, if the insured does not have me for an expert, the insured stands no chance. These goffs in my opinion are believed by the courts!
Why do you think they tried to take me out? I pose a huge threat! Together with client attorneys, we have cost insurance companies millions!!!
We have kept some innocent insureds from going to jail.
Insurance defense attorneys are very good at confusing the truth. I see this commonly. They still try to misrepresent my qualifications, stating I was disqualified to testify in a court I never appeared in!
I will be starting litigation against these firms because frankly, I am sick of lies being passed off as truth!
I also find it ironic that one of these "forensic" experts is being used on the East Coast in felony trials. A convicted drug dealer testifying against an insured. The insurance companies know of this fact, but their defense is "it happened a long time ago."
You are just one more example to the fraud and corruption in this industry if you are in fact innocent.
Contact me personal email at robo14@aol.com
Rob
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Answers by Expert:
Rob Painter, ASE, CFL, CFEI
Expertise
My background in auto theft is extensive. I have been directly involved in the repair of over 10,000 theft recovered vehicles. I also do insurance investigation as to how a vehicle was last operated. My clients are insurance companies and attorneys. Was featured in the A & E auto theft documentary "Stealing Wheels" July 26, 2000. Has consulted with Daimler Chrysler steering column engineers to make their steering columns harder to defeat. Holds patent # 6,039,140 for 8 different variations to protect air bags from theft.
Experience
ROB PAINTER, ASE, CFL, CFEI Forensic Vehicle Component Analyst Diplomate, Board Certified Forensic Examiner ASE Certified Auto, Collision, Med/Hvy/Duty Truck Technician Certified Forensic Locksmith Certified Fire and Explosion Investigator Certified Vehicle Fire Investigator Certified Forensic Auto Theft Examiner Certified Auto Theft and Fraud Expert http://www.autotheftexpert.com Email-rpainter@wi.rr.com P.O. Box 190 Big Bend, WI 53103 Phone (414) 698-9696 Fax (262) 662-1352 As per federal court rules of evidence (702) (Daubert) my testimony has qualified me as: Auto Theft and Fraud Expert Forensic Vehicle Analyst Fire Origin and Cause Expert In the trial transcript of Holiday vs Progressive Insurance Company (March 12, 2002?Eugene, Oregon) with Holiday being my client-named ?the expert for experts.? BUSINESS EXPERIENCE Founder of the ?Forensic Institute of Auto Theft Analysis? (January 2002). This is the training school that will set the standards in determining the last operation of a reported stolen vehicle-burned or unburned. Much of my testing and procedures have been accepted as the guide for the forensic community. 1986 opened Auto Recovery Specialists Inc., providing exclusive repair of theft recovered and vandalized vehicles. The initial concept of the business was to return vehicles to their original shape before the theft, vandalism or fire. In 1987 bought the rights to the theft deterrent known as the ?Chicago Collar?. Duties include complete component replacement: dash, stereo system, interior, locks and coding, rebuilding steering columns, repairing and installing vehicle security system components (factory and after market), engine components, body repair, glass replacement, repair and service of air conditioning components, brake and suspension repair, and replacement, wiring harnesses etc. to return vehicle to pre-theft condition Complete reconstruction. During the past 17 years directly involved in the repair of over 10,000 theft-recovered and fire damaged Personally examined and rebuilt thousands of steering columns on both import and domestic vehicles Internationally acknowledged as expert in auto theft including court, consulting with insurance companies, attorneys and law enforcement. Consultant on steering columns, locks, stereo systems and vehicle security for Special Investigation Units for many large insurance carriers during the past eight years. Consulting services include but not limited to: How a vehicle was last operated (with or without keys in burned or unburned vehicles), Origin and Cause of vehicle fires, and vehicle defects. Provides services as a consultant and researcher to attorneys and insurance companies, and private industry throughout the US in cases related to vehicles. Has worked with crime prevention officers throughout the US establishing training programs designed to protect the public from becoming victims of auto theft. PATENT: 3/21/00 issued patent# 6,039,140 for 8 different variations of airbag anti-theft devices. PUBLICATIONS Currently authors articles and test reports on an ongoing basis for SIUs and the forensic/vehicle fire industry. Published author: (1,297 slide training course) Auto Theft/ Fraud Training Course) ?The Modern Forensic Approach to Auto Theft Investigation.? (January, 2001) Author: ?Variables to Be Considered In Vehicle Fire Investigation after Suppression.? (Insurance publication-November 2001) Author: ?Ford Magnesium Steering Columns and the Results to Ignition Components after a Fire?. Article for peer review from the fire and forensic community. (November 2001) Author: ?The Truth About GM VATS.? (Article) (November 2001) Author: ?The Truth About GM PASSLOCK TM? (Article) (November 2001) Author:? Auto Theft Investigation: Hollywood vs. Reality? (Article) (February 2001) For the John Cooke Fraud Report. Published author: (Manual) ?Forensic Vehicle Fire/ Arson and Auto Theft Investigation? (October 2000) Published author: (Article) ?Petty Claims? for the John Cooke Fraud Report (October, 1998) Published author (Manual) ?AUTO THEFT: LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!? (1998) (Previously distributed by Barnes & Nobel) Co-authored the investigation manual, ?Surreptitious Entry & Auto Theft & Burn & the Investigator.? (1999) Authored test questions on the subject of steering columns and vehicle security for CFL designation to be given by the International Association of Investigative Locksmiths. January, 2000 Published author: (Manual) ?Saginaw Steering Columns-What Has Not Been Told? Training manual for fire investigators. (March 2000) Published (Article) ?Beyond The Lock? (May 2000) Published Author: (Article) Fraud Defense Network-August, 2000 Edition-?Melting Steering Column Tests.? http://www.fraudreport.com/index.cfm?month=08&year=2000 Published author: (Test Report) ?Burned Toyota Steering Column Testing to Determine How Last Operated?. Tool marks and procedures. (December 1999) Currently at the FBI Crime Lab in Washington DC and the US Army Crime Lab in Atlanta, GA for peer review. ACCOMPLISHMENTS Defeated the ?unstealable? Ford Securilock transponder system for a court case 10/10/00. They said it could not be done! Primary designer of a state of the art ?bait? car for a police department to catch car thieves. Worked with The National Highway Safety Transportation Administration and discovered a potential fire hazard on a vehicle and determined origin and cause of under hood fires on this type of vehicle. Featured as ?Auto Theft Expert? in the A & E auto theft documentary ?Stealing Wheels? that aired July 26, 2000. Contacted by Sears and Edelman Marketing to be a national spokesman for an anti theft device for vehicles. (November 1999) Invited to provide evaluation and consulting to steering column engineers at Daimler Chrysler Corporation in Auburn Hills, MI (10/19/99-10/22/99). The purpose of this project was to demonstrate how steering column locking mechanisms could be defeated without the use of a key and how to reinforce the columns against theft. Court Qualified as an Auto Theft Expert and my videos of defeating columns were also accepted by a Cleveland, Ohio Court in October 1999 as a valid piece of evidence. Contacted by Disney Touchstone Pictures for technical assistance in making the movie ?Gone in 60 Seconds? (March 1999) CONSULTANT FOR FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS ? Former contributor for The Insurance News Network (Auto theft and prevention) includes heading a forum for the public on how to protect their vehicles for 3+ years. ? Former editor and consultant for the public on matters involving auto theft and prevention 2000-2001 on the web at http://www.autotheft_forum.com. ? The Insurance Career Center (Auto theft and fraud). ? National Association of Investigative Specialists (Auto theft and fraud) ? Expert Find (Auto theft and fraud} TECHNICAL EXPERIENCE ? ASE (National Institute of Automotive Service Excellence) Certified in Auto: brakes, steering and suspension, engine repair, manual drive train and axles, air conditioning. Med/Heavy duty truck: gasoline engine repair, electrical/electronic components. Collision: elec.....
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