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Auto Theft Prevention/chevy venture 1999


will resetting the security system help if the battery keeps dying? battery is new but is dead a day or two later. when you do the reset do u just turn the key off and back on or do you start the car and then turn off and start again?


Many people feel that because they have an electrical issue and because of lack of understanding, figure the so-called anti theft system is the culprit.

Te reality is that 99.99% of the time, the security system has nothing to do with the problem. The other issue that may anger you, is that you probably did not even need to replace a perfectly good battery, but that is the first think peple do when the battery is dead.

The first thing we need to know is if the alternator is charging. I could tell you to go out and by testing equipment for this and you may have to, however there is a cheap way to find out if the alternator is charging. Get the engine running. Once running, turn on the headlights and open the hood. If you hear the GM alternator "scream" and see the headlights are bright, the alternator is charging.

Then you need to go to a parts store and buy a cheap 12v test light. (under $10-maybe $5).With the engine not running and nothing on, disconnect the positive battery cable. Put the clip on the cable and the pointed end on the battery terminal. You are looking for a parasitic draw. If a draw is present and is running the battery down, you need to remove one fusee at a time until the light goes out. Keep in mind that the dome/courtesy fuse will cause the test light to be on opening the door and would be the first you need to remove. If the test light is still illuminated, you will have to find what fuse turns the test light off.
In the event that the testlight is not illuminated after you remove the dome fuse, you will need to either remove the bulbs or disconnect the lighter, open the glove box and see if pressing on the switch makes the testlight go out. I believe there are also map lights involved and you will need to make sure none of them are on including in the rear. The memory for the stereo is on that circuit as well as the locks I believe. Its a process of trial and error and I can only give you a brief overview of the dome circuit.

You only have one of two things going. Either a charging issue or a draw.

I believe the venture has a PK III transponder system and I do not believe there is a reset per se and this would have to be done with a Tech II scanner which is a very expensive tool. There is no reason to reset the transponder and the only thing that would be needed would be to make additional keys and even that can be done without the use of a scanner.

I have been working on GM electrical systems for 35 years and in my opinion, the charging and battery system is probably the most simplistic of all vehicles. In fact, it was common place for me to throw out alternators on Fords that had external regulators on them, and just replace with a GM Delco alternator.

The one other thing I did not address was the ground and they do go bad in the rust belt. The negative cable goes to the frame. he bolt is removed and the frame is ground to bare metal and the bolt is reattached, but I don't believe that will be your problem. I think you are going to find a draw in the electrical system. Another item on the dome circuit is the cigarette lighter.

Good luck and let me know what you find.

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My background in auto theft is extensive. I have been directly involved in the repair of over 10,000 theft recovered vehicles. I also do insurance investigation as to how a vehicle was last operated. My clients are insurance companies and attorneys. Was featured in the A & E auto theft documentary "Stealing Wheels" July 26, 2000. Has consulted with Daimler Chrysler steering column engineers to make their steering columns harder to defeat. Holds patent # 6,039,140 for 8 different variations to protect air bags from theft.


ROB PAINTER, ASE, CFL, CFEI Forensic Vehicle Component Analyst Diplomate, Board Certified Forensic Examiner ASE Certified Auto, Collision, Med/Hvy/Duty Truck Technician Certified Forensic Locksmith Certified Fire and Explosion Investigator Certified Vehicle Fire Investigator Certified Forensic Auto Theft Examiner Certified Auto Theft and Fraud Expert P.O. Box 190 Big Bend, WI 53103 Phone (414) 698-9696 Fax (262) 662-1352 As per federal court rules of evidence (702) (Daubert) my testimony has qualified me as: Auto Theft and Fraud Expert Forensic Vehicle Analyst Fire Origin and Cause Expert In the trial transcript of Holiday vs Progressive Insurance Company (March 12, 2002?Eugene, Oregon) with Holiday being my client-named ?the expert for experts.? BUSINESS EXPERIENCE Founder of the ?Forensic Institute of Auto Theft Analysis? (January 2002). This is the training school that will set the standards in determining the last operation of a reported stolen vehicle-burned or unburned. Much of my testing and procedures have been accepted as the guide for the forensic community. 1986 opened Auto Recovery Specialists Inc., providing exclusive repair of theft recovered and vandalized vehicles. The initial concept of the business was to return vehicles to their original shape before the theft, vandalism or fire. In 1987 bought the rights to the theft deterrent known as the ?Chicago Collar?. Duties include complete component replacement: dash, stereo system, interior, locks and coding, rebuilding steering columns, repairing and installing vehicle security system components (factory and after market), engine components, body repair, glass replacement, repair and service of air conditioning components, brake and suspension repair, and replacement, wiring harnesses etc. to return vehicle to pre-theft condition Complete reconstruction. During the past 17 years directly involved in the repair of over 10,000 theft-recovered and fire damaged Personally examined and rebuilt thousands of steering columns on both import and domestic vehicles Internationally acknowledged as expert in auto theft including court, consulting with insurance companies, attorneys and law enforcement. Consultant on steering columns, locks, stereo systems and vehicle security for Special Investigation Units for many large insurance carriers during the past eight years. Consulting services include but not limited to: How a vehicle was last operated (with or without keys in burned or unburned vehicles), Origin and Cause of vehicle fires, and vehicle defects. Provides services as a consultant and researcher to attorneys and insurance companies, and private industry throughout the US in cases related to vehicles. Has worked with crime prevention officers throughout the US establishing training programs designed to protect the public from becoming victims of auto theft. PATENT: 3/21/00 issued patent# 6,039,140 for 8 different variations of airbag anti-theft devices. PUBLICATIONS Currently authors articles and test reports on an ongoing basis for SIUs and the forensic/vehicle fire industry. Published author: (1,297 slide training course) Auto Theft/ Fraud Training Course) ?The Modern Forensic Approach to Auto Theft Investigation.? (January, 2001) Author: ?Variables to Be Considered In Vehicle Fire Investigation after Suppression.? (Insurance publication-November 2001) Author: ?Ford Magnesium Steering Columns and the Results to Ignition Components after a Fire?. Article for peer review from the fire and forensic community. (November 2001) Author: ?The Truth About GM VATS.? (Article) (November 2001) Author: ?The Truth About GM PASSLOCK TM? (Article) (November 2001) Author:? 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Published author: (Test Report) ?Burned Toyota Steering Column Testing to Determine How Last Operated?. Tool marks and procedures. (December 1999) Currently at the FBI Crime Lab in Washington DC and the US Army Crime Lab in Atlanta, GA for peer review. ACCOMPLISHMENTS Defeated the ?unstealable? Ford Securilock transponder system for a court case 10/10/00. They said it could not be done! Primary designer of a state of the art ?bait? car for a police department to catch car thieves. Worked with The National Highway Safety Transportation Administration and discovered a potential fire hazard on a vehicle and determined origin and cause of under hood fires on this type of vehicle. Featured as ?Auto Theft Expert? in the A & E auto theft documentary ?Stealing Wheels? that aired July 26, 2000. Contacted by Sears and Edelman Marketing to be a national spokesman for an anti theft device for vehicles. (November 1999) Invited to provide evaluation and consulting to steering column engineers at Daimler Chrysler Corporation in Auburn Hills, MI (10/19/99-10/22/99). The purpose of this project was to demonstrate how steering column locking mechanisms could be defeated without the use of a key and how to reinforce the columns against theft. Court Qualified as an Auto Theft Expert and my videos of defeating columns were also accepted by a Cleveland, Ohio Court in October 1999 as a valid piece of evidence. Contacted by Disney Touchstone Pictures for technical assistance in making the movie ?Gone in 60 Seconds? (March 1999) CONSULTANT FOR FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS ? Former contributor for The Insurance News Network (Auto theft and prevention) includes heading a forum for the public on how to protect their vehicles for 3+ years. ? Former editor and consultant for the public on matters involving auto theft and prevention 2000-2001 on the web at ? 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