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Thanks for the reply. If that is the problem,how can I wipeout the wipeout, if I can't find grips for it?
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A few of our dwgs have taken on some strange characteristics that I'm unable to resolve. Nothing is visible beyond the page boundary within PS. If crossed, ghost and grips are visible, but disappear when esc or enter is keyed. Doesn't seem to matter whether lines/objects are created in PS or MS, or what layers are used/current. Have tried WBLOCK to creat new dwg, doesn't help. Seems to affect only a few dwgs, and then randomly. Use XREF's in all the dwgs, but detaching doesn't help either. Have any suggestions? Thanks.

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Just one.  If a block or XREF (of actually any object has been hidden by a wipeout, and if you have grips enabled in blocks and xrefs (see DDGRIPS) you will still make the hidden objects highlight when you select the block (or other objects behind the wipeout) - even if you can't see them normally because the wipeout is in front.  That is the only thought I have on that subject.  Grips aren't supposed to show on a clipped block or XREF, so I don't think THAT's causing it.

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Carl:
Well, provide there is a wipeout in front of stuff, if the wipeout Frames are off, you can turn them on in order to see them.  

Command: Wipeout
Specify first point or [Frames/Polyline] <Polyline>: f
Enter mode [ON/OFF] <ON>: on

I believe that this command will be available only if Express Tools is installed.

(ssget "x" (list (cons '0 "WIPEOUT")))
paste the above line to the command line and see if it selects anything.
If it does, erase "p" for previous.

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Bill DeShawn
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn  

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I can address all 2-D questions and some 3-D questions. I do programming in AutoLISP if it doesn`t involve solid modeling. I can also address menu customization issues and can help you find answers to questions I can`t answer by taking your question directly to Autodesk via their newsgroups.

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