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hello and thank you for allowing  me to ask you a question here. my question is this. i have been in the D/s life for a couple years now. i was with Someone and in this process i have learned a little about M/s relationships. i guess i am asking if it is possible for a submissive to become slave. i love the idea, but my fear i guess is being hurt (physically). But that again comes from trusting one's Master i would think. i have been told that because i am submissive i am not slave material. do you have any tips for me or places i could read and learn more about it.

thanks sincerely kim

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Greetings Kim

Thank you for the question. Lets see if I can shed some light on your question but first let me say, please don’t allow someone to tell you what you can and cant be. One thing that I find a shame, is the amount of people out there who think they can look at someone or talk to them and say “ oh there is no way you can be a slave.” Seems a bit short sided don’t you think?
Now having said that there are some people, who may have a little more difficulty adjusting to station of being a slave, but I like to think that if you are committed to it, anything is possible.

There are several slaves.. me included. started out bottoming and then in D/s relationships, only to find that becoming a slave best suited their needs and personality. i find it was advantageous for me to have experiences a number of different stations. So personally i think it is definitely possible to move from submission to slavery. In addition i also believe we are forever learning about selves and what we found satisfying at one stage or our lives may not be what we need in another stage in life. The other thing is that there is sometimes a natural progression that happens with D/s couples as they develop deeper connections. Sometimes Master and slave is part of that progression.

There are a number of books out there that might be helpful is describing the internal process of being a slave. For me being slave is about what I think of myself and how strong my desire is to serve another, but you hit the nail on the head when you said that one must trust the person they are relinquishing control to; but I digress.

Book list I believe might be helpful helpful.

                                                                     Title                        Author                  ISBN

Slave Craft                 Guy Baldwin             1-8819431-4-3
Becoming a slave            Jack Rinella            0-940267-20-9
The Complete slave          Jack Rinella            1-8819431-3-5
To Love to obey to serve    V.M. Johnson            0-9645960-2-4
Art of slavery                  9-781934625743
Partners in power           Jack Rinella            1-890159-53-0
Master slave relationships  Robert Rubel            1-887895-63-9

There are many books out there erotic in nature. However, people I know personally wrote these books. Although I do not agree with every point they make they offer a great jumping off point.

One thing to remember about being a slave is that we are all different and no two of us are alike. There maybe qualities that are similar but that is the extent if it. If being a slave I something of interest to you might I recommend doing some thinking about what your motives are for becoming a slave. It has been said that being able to take a whip or submit to extensive bondage while being sexually used is the sign of a wonderful lover but it’s a person who truly desires to serve another for the master’s purpose and their pleasure. To receive pleasure when your owner smiles or nods as a sign of a job well done, or if a person is committed to their station with every fiber of their body is the beginnings of a slave. Those words have always give me something to think about and have serve well in helping slaves discover their true nature

I think its important for a person to look inward for what they desire rather then to allow others to label them. So much of a slaves internal process is just that, internal. Go with your hearts desire. Let you be the judge of who and what you are.

Anyway, I hope the books will be of some assistance. Another place you can do some reading is on a site called www.fetlife.com. I am not generally a fan of online sites but I have seen some valuable writings there.

Thank you for the opportunity to share information with you. Best of luck

Warmest regards kim
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I am available to answer questions pertaining to the Master slave dynamic. The slaves journey into submission, mentorship, service,leather lifestyle, household management, and training. My life's focus is assisting individuals to realized their fullest potential through self awareness.

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I am a 45 year old female slave who has been part of the BDSM/M/s lifestyle since 1983 and have traveled thought out the community presenting on a wide variety of subjects pertaining to the master slave dynamic. I am currently writing a book on topics concerning the slave. I also host a slaves retreat in TN each year which focuses on the self actualization of the consensual slave. Mentoring and life couching for those involved in power exchange relationships.

Organizations
TES MAST ROCHESTER NY MAsT national

Publications
Slave quarters: "The mind body spirit of consensual slavery" Art of slavery Tryscilian society

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Aside from learning from lifes experiences i have a BA in psychology and a masters in socialogy. i have studied gender and human sexuality in an ever changing world.

Awards and Honors
Southeast slave 2006 International slave 2006

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Masters and slaves

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