Expert: ziggy ziegler - 4/8/2011

Question
Hello,
i was speaking to my Sir last night about how it seems that i identify more as "property" than as "slave."

i can feel that this is true to me emotionally, but i am completely at a loss for words as to why this is true and what it means.

my Sir suggested i do some reading, but the most common conclusion i found online was that O/p and M/s are the same thing, just a matter of semantics...and many who opted to use O/p did so because of the historical connotations of slavery.

i know that BDSM definitions can be both umbrella terms and very personal, but i feel the need to wrap my mind around this. it seems to me that a slave is generally property, but if i am property and not a slave...well, i don't know what i am.

i hope to speak to my Sir about this matter as soon as i can, but before i next see him, i am still trying to read and research as much as i can...

thank you so much for your assistance in this matter.

m

Answer
Greetings Mei


Thank you for your question...

Its interesting how every 5-7 years there floats the the surface a new terminology to be defined...I do think its cool because it really makes us look at the identities we take one.. Good for you Mei..smiles,,

Okay i am going to take a stab at it...i hope my perspective will assist you in some way.
You may or may not agree but here goes.

Master slave has aways denoted for me a level of commitment that is not just with regards to the dynamic but also in terms of emotional commitments. Both parties are interested in the fulfillment of the other with regards to the dynamic and what it has to offer. There is greater consideration for each others needs and the constructs set by the master. The goal often is to develop a relationship with the intention of it being long term and invested.

Owner property: I believe that both Owner and property although we hope it meets the needs of both, the basis of owner property misses the emotional component factor within the relationship. Service is just service. The property serves the owner and there is little reference to long term relationship building. I liken owner property as a sort of personal and emotional detachment simply because you may be given away to someone else in much the same way he might donate something. There is some talk about the owner property dynamic being more dependent on the owners needs rather then the needs of the property (save some basic needs.)This is often atractive for folks because we are constantly looking for ways to separate ourselves and try and show a deeper level of commitment to the D/s dynamic and for some people it truly is

I see this term used a lot in the online venues the thing for me is that i feel owner property is some serious stuff ( so is M/s but here is my personal view) To be O/p you have to be driven to it and highly self actualized/ self driven to serve and surrender because to touches the deepest part of you and is not contingent on the emotional component Owner property might be the way to go..

I think you will find the the M/s O/P community the terms are most often interchangeable i don't see them as the same but the differences can be more a matter of semantics rather than an actual differences. However, i think we also choose identities that fit or just plain feel right.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.... Never had that question before so thank you for the brain work out smiles Best of luck to you and your Sir..

warmest regards
Slave Ziggy