Baptists/URGENT
Expert: Dr Don Howe - 7/6/2009
Questionmet a women claiming to be possessed by something causing her physical pain causing her to "hate" and use vulgar language when i mentioned the name of Christ she said she was in pain. I was talking to her over the net thus i cant test her for true demonic possession i just wanted to ask you if it is possible to exorcise someone over the net she said the pain let her but she supposidly has a boyfriend who is a satanist leading demons into her. tricking her to be part of his rituals. I told the women to contact john zaffis or kenneth deel who are demonologists they are experts at this, and they get people the help they need but she didnt wanna do that nor did she want to throw away all her occult memrobelia i just wanted to know what i should do or if what i did was enough : /
please help this is urgent
Answer Raul, thank you for your question. You stated “a women claiming to be possessed by something causing her physical pain causing her to "hate" and use vulgar language when i mentioned the name of Christ she said she was in pain.” Demons possess people and cause physical ailments. For example, in Matt. 18:16 states “When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with [his] word, and healed all that were sick.” Jesus cast out the devils and people were healed of their physical infirmities.
Matt. 18:28-32 provides us with some good information about the characteristics of demons. Verse 28 states “And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.” Jesus was returning to Gergesenes when he is met by two demon possessed men who were fierce and super strong and was feared by men.
Verse 29 states “And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?” Raul, note that the Jesus knew who they were and the demon possessed knew who Jesus was as they stated “Jesus, thou Son of God.” There was not mistaken identity here. The demons knew their immediate destiny was to be casted out and to sent to everlasting hell as evident in “torment us before the time.”
It is amazing how the liberal corrupt world we live in today, people do not know who Jesus is but the demons do. So the question I ask you Raul, do you know who Jesus is, saved by the blood of the Lamb, and have a personal relationship with Him (the words personal relationship will be important later?
Verse 30 states “And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding.” Verse 31 continues “So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.”
In verse 32 states “And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.” The demons went into the pigs and went over the cliff into the sea. The demons knew they did not want to be sent to everlasting hell or torment by Jesus, and they knew He could do it, but wanted to enter the pigs, and still be present to torment man another day. David Guzik states about this “The fact that the demons immediately drove the swine to destruction helps explain why Jesus allowed the demons to enter the pigs - because He wanted everyone to know what the real intention of these demons was. They wanted to destroy the man just as they destroyed the pigs. Because men are made in the image of God, they could not have their way as easily with the man, but their intention was just the same: to completely destroy him.”
Matt. 9:32-33 states “As they went out, behold, they brought to him a dumb man possessed with a devil. And when the devil was cast out, the dumb spake: and the multitudes marvelled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel.” The devil had possessed this man and he was deaf. Jesus casted out the devil just by speaking.
Matt. 15:22 shows us how a mother will plead to save her children when they are sick. The text states “And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, [thou] Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.” This mother is doing what all mothers would do when their daughter is sick and that is to plead for mercy from Almighty God. Raul, this is something that this lady that you have mentioned has not done. She is not reaching out to God but to the Devil and she is possessed and physically tormented (she was in pain). Verse 28 tells of the healing “Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great [is] thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.” Her faith as a Gentile was greater than any of the Jews even though Jesus came to bless the Jews first (15:24), but was he suppose to give the blessing from the children’s table (vs 15 speaking of Israel) and give to the dogs (speaking of her as a Gentile). But the woman even the dogs (Gentiles) eat from the Master’s table (speaking of God). Jesus was amazed with her wisdom and faith in Him, and he healed her daughter.
Matt. 17 exhibits the best teaching yet on demon possession being manifested as a physical infirmity. In 17:14-15 states “And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a [certain] man, kneeling down to him, and saying, Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.” This father brought his son to Jesus because the boy was both mentally ill (a lunatick) and he had seizures (often falls in the fire and into the water).”
Matt. 17:16 the text states “And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.” The disciples failed and could not cure him, so the father goes right to Jesus. No messing around with this father. “Sometimes Jesus’ followers fail, but Jesus never does. The man was wise for going straight to Jesus when His followers failed. There are "ranks" of demonic powers (Ephesians 6:12), and evidently, some demons are stronger (more stubborn, resistant) than others. Since the disciples had been given the authority to cast out demons before (Matthew 10:8), apparently this demon was more difficult than most” Guzik). Raul, maybe this was why you could not really help the woman very much as she maybe possessed by a stronger demon and your saying biblical verses over the internet only tormented the demon (Matt. 18:29), but did not get rid of them.
This is the answer to your question can you do an exoticism over the internet and the answer is “no.” Your faith is not strong enough which is exemplified by what you stated “I told the women to contact john zaffis or kenneth deel who are demonologists they are experts at this.” Why would send her to ungodly people like John Zaffis and Kenneth Deel who are possessed themselves i.e. they are demonologists. Nonsense, they are just as possessed as this woman is. Jesus said in Matt. 3:23 “How can Satan cast out Satan.” So sending her to demonologist is worthless according to the Word of God. You would send her to God Himself through prayer, reading of His Word, and supplications.
Matt. 17:18 tells of the healing “And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.”
Matt. 17-19 tells why the disciples could not drive out this stronger demon “Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?” Verse 20 tells it like it is “And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief.” Their unbelief kept them from driving out the stronger demon, just as your saying biblical verses could not drive the demon out of this woman as she too may have a stronger demon, and you are only tormenting the demon (but do not despair that is a good thing also). To be successful in casting out demons, there must be trust in the Lord God who has total authority over the demons.
In verse 21, Jesus tells us how to get rid of any demon and stronger demons “Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.” We get rid of all demons by prayer and fasting.
Raul for you help this lady who is demon possessed you need to be fasting, praying for her earnestly, giving her the Word of the Spirit, and not relying on other demon possessed men like demonologists.
Raul, this lady maybe demon possessed but she is also mentally ill and she is need of psychiatric treatment. She needs to rid of the “her occult memrobelia” and get rid of the “boyfriend who is a Satanist.” She needs to get rid of both things and commit herself to a place where she can get psychiatric help from Christian doctors, such as Ralpha.
Raul, you need to besure that you are saved by the Blood of the Lamb yourself, have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus, serving Him in a local congregation, and worship with fellow believers.
My prayers are with you as you continue to help this lady. But she needs some serious psychiatric help.
Blessings,
Dr Don Howe, RN, PhD, ThD.