Expert: Dr. Ronald E. Shultz - 7/1/2011

Question
QUESTION: jesus said (I ALWAYS DO WHAT PLEASE HIM).
and my ask how we say jesus (GOD = SON OF GOD) are one and (jesus said i always do what please him).
here jesus not god and god not jesus because how god say i please my self and how jesus spoke about himself that he satsafaction himself.
so jesus and god arent one because jesus work to please his god .
you will answer to me and say jesus spoke as a man so i tell you (jesus spoke in erarth words given by his father so jesus spoke always and forver as a god not a man so how god say(I ALWAYS DO WHAT PLEASE HIM).
SO THIS MEAN THAT JESUS WAS NOT A GOD BUT SERVANTE BECAUSE SERVANT (JESUS PLEASE HIS GOG)
thank you

ANSWER: That is not really a problem.  They are absolutely one in essence.  As I have said, no one can explain the triune God but the Father clearly states at the Baptism of Jesus that Jesus is His Son and the Holy Spirit was also present.   I gave you the OT passage in Isaiah that shows that tri-unity of God.

There are many other places where either God the Father or Jesus Himself says that He is God.  The Jews would not have sought to stone Him if He had only declared Himself to be a servant of God for many servants or prophets came from God.  They wanted to stone Him because He declared Himself equal to God.  Now, within the Godhead there is a mutually acceptable hierarchy.  Thus the Son is submissive to the Father and the Spirit to both of them but they are absolutely equal.  So for the Son to say that He always does what pleases the Father is not an odd thing.  In fact, since They are all one they will always do what is right and pleasing to each other for they cannot do anything else.  

What Jesus says are in terms that are designed to help us understand.  Unlike humans, who do not always do what pleases God for we are sinners, He always does what is pleasing to God. That is not to demean His position in the Godhead or redefine it making Him a servant or lesser being.  It was a statement of fact.  He could have also said I always do what is pleasing to Me, being He is God, but that would have come across as egotistical and no different than what humans do.  He could have said that He always does what pleases the Spirit for all of the Godhead are in unity as to what is righteous and pleasing.  

He is showing that He is righteous and that will make Him able to pay the ransom of sin for mankind for only one who is perfect can pay that price and there is none perfect but God.  Although there were prophecies that He was fulfilling as the Messiah the Jews still did not understand and He had to teach them many things.  

Besides, if the king’s son is obedient to his father or wants to please him does that make him a servant?  No, he is still prince for he bears the king’s genes.  God the Son can still be God though He pleases the Father always.  

Keep studying and may wisdom come to you, friend.   


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QUESTION: Dear  Dr. Ronald E. Shultz
jesus asid(But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham).
see here(AMAN THAT HATH TOLD YOU THE TRUTH WHICH I HAVE HEARD OF GOD).
here jesus said he was a (MAN ) and you knew that jesus didnt spoke from his mind or himself but from words given by (GOD).
so jesus when he spoke words was from his god SO MY GREAT ASK
HOW JESUS SAID HE WAS A MAN AND YOU SAID HE WAS A GOD AND STILL GOD?
JESUS SAID THE TRUE BECAUSE HE GOD SO HOW HE SAID HE WAS A MAN AND OTHER SAY HE IS GOD?
JESUS HERE Recognized THAT HE WAS (MAN) NOT(GOD).
thank you sire very much and im happy from recieve  your learn and your information.

ANSWER: Yes, my friend, He is a man but He is God in the flesh. He is the God-Man. Even a Greek philosopher once said that the only way man could understand God was if He came in the flesh.  

Ex 3:14

14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM : and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. KJV

John 8:57-59

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am .

59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. KJV

God revealed Himself to Moses and said to use the name I AM to refer to Him. Jesus also said that before Abraham was, I AM.  The same verbiage and if He were living before Abraham He would have to be God.  They took up stones because they knew He was claiming to be God by saying I AM.

Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. KJV

Rev 1:10-11

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. KJV

Jesus also said that He was the Alpha and Omega, which is what God said to Abraham.  Again, He declares Himself to be God.  

The incarnation of God is a difficult thing to understand for we are but men, but the only way the payment for sin could be made is to have a perfect sacrifice.  No mere man could do that.  So God took on a human being so that it could be killed to pay the debt man had for sin.  So yes He had a man's body but still He was God wrapped in that flesh.

John 3:12-13

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven , but he that came down from heaven , even the Son of man which is in heaven. KJV

Jesus said not only that He came down from Heaven, but He was also IN Heaven at the same time.  No man can do that.  Only God can be on earth and in heaven at the same time.  

If a man can put on a coat, why can God not put on a body?  He created the body so why is it so hard to believe that He can do this when indeed He is all powerful.  He can do as He pleases and He pleased to put on flesh so that sin could be paid for and men could be reconciled to Him.  

Peace be unto, friend.  

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QUESTION: Dear Dr. Ronald E. Shultz
thank you about your answer.
i ask Some people of other religions say Jesus was a prophet and not God because he was speaking as a human being and said that he is the messenger of God.
Was Jesus God or just a prophet with God?

Answer
Jon, if He were only a prophet or a good teacher more people would like Him for He did not teach anything evil.  Many will accept Him as a teacher or even a prophet but they do not want to accept that He is God.

2 Tim 3:1-2
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers , disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, KJV

You can only blaspheme against God. People around the world use Jesus Christ as curse words. Paul, a prophet/apostle prophesied 2000 years ago that men would be blasphemers.  They only blaspheme Jesus Christ thus they prove that He is God.  

What did Thomas say when He saw Christ after the resurrection?  "My Lord and my God!"  Jesus did not rebuke him and say, "I am a man. Worship God only"  He would not accept worship if He were not truly God.

Acts 14:11-15

11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.

12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter ; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.

13 Then the priest of Jupiter , which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.

14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: KJV

When they tried to make Paul and Barnabas into incarnations of gods they rebuked the people and said that they were just men.  Jesus did not do so when Thomas called Him God.

Col 2:6-9

6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. KJV

Col 1:12-16

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist .

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; KJV

Paul says that all fullness of the Godhead dwells in Christ and that He was before all things and that He created all things and only God has that power.  Indeed, it says that by Him all things consist or are held together.   

If you have a scientific interest you may find this something worth considering because of this statement about Christ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0-NPPIeeRk

Zech 12:8-10

8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced , and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. KJV

This is God speaking and He says that one day the Jews will look upon Him whom they have pierced.
How do you pierce God?  He would have to have a body. Also, it is God speaking about Himself being pierced and yet He says that they shall mourn for Him, a different person.  How does that work?  Indeed, the Son of God, coequal with God the Father, was pierced on the Cross. To pierce the Son is to pierce the Father for the Son and the Father are one.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God , The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. KJV

It was prophesied that God would come in the flesh.  How else could the child be called the mighty God or everlasting Father except that He be God in flesh?  Jesus is that prophesied God-Child.  

He was and is 100% God and 100% Man. It is a wonderful miracle and even a mystery but it brought the love and salvation of God to sin condemned human race.  

Peace be unto you!