Baptists/missionary baptist doctrine
patricia wrote at 2008-04-21 03:44:26
the question was asked about the missionary baptist. they don't believe the same way southern baptist believe once saved always saved not true, we missionary baptist dont agree with this. and we also ordined women to be pastors the southern baptist don't think a women has a place in this office or other duties of the church if they have men who can't do them feel free to email me
Missionary Baptist Preacher wrote at 2008-08-31 20:54:47
The term "Missionary Baptist" is a term that is used by many of the churches of the American Baptist Association. These Churches do not belong to the Southern Baptist Convention. Among the distinctive beliefs held by the Missionary (ABA) Baptists are:
1- The perpetuity of Baptist Churches from the time of Christ to the present day. (Landmarkism)
2-That a church is always and only a local, visible, assembly of Baptized believers covenented together to fullfill the great commision. There is no universal church. The universal body of believers is the Kingdom of God.
3.-The Lord's Supper is restricted to faithfull church members. (Closed Communion)
Theologically Missionary Baptists are Fundamentalist, Premillenial, and independent. The Churches of the ABA fellowship and associate together by freewill. The Association excersises no control over the churches and all mission work is under control of the Churches.
Hope this helps.
KB wrote at 2009-07-13 16:01:28
Some Missionary Baptist are Not SBC or Independent---they have strick doctrine and beliefs --- Agree and go by the 18 Articles of Faith in Pendelton manual.--- We are Old Time Baptist.
Hoss wrote at 2009-08-20 21:41:37
God does not see Catholics,protestants,pentecostals,SBC,MBC,IFB,or any other religions of the world, He sees the heart of all individuals, their love for Christ, and not doctrine.
BJ Bennett wrote at 2011-01-28 03:01:55
With all due respect to the writer of the previous answer, most churches calling themselves Missionary Baptists are not affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention and have serious doctrinal and organizational differences with the SBC.
Those styling themselves Missionary Baptists are those that hold to the doctrines of Landmarkism. Many are parts of associations, the largest of which would be the American Baptist Association (not to be confused with the liberal American Baptist Churches) Others "Missionary Baptist" or "Landmark Baptists" associate with the Baptist Missionary Association. There are a few smaller associations. There are also several independent Landmark Baptist Churches that do not associate with any association. The largest group of Missionary Baptists the ABA or American Baptist Association differs doctrinally and organizationally from the SBC. In the SBC larger churches or richer churches have more power and have more representation at the Convention. In the ABA all churches are equal. All the churches affiliated with the ABA are totally independent. The Associated work is purely voluntary. The SBC has a mission board that can both hire and fire missionaries. The ABA has a mission board but it is purely advisory in nature. It has no authority whatsoever. It merely advises the churches of the association who make decisions for themselves. Furthermore the ABA does not hire or fire missionaries. All missionaries are sent out by the authority of an independent Baptist church. The churches of the Association simply vote whether or not to give the support of the Association to the Missionary. It has no power to hire or fire, that is the duty of the individual churches.
Doctrinally Missionary Baptists differ from Southern Baptists in several key areas. On a whole Missionary Baptists are far more conservative and fundamental than the SBC. The vast Majority use only the King James version of the Bible and practice a very traditional Baptistic form of worship. Missionary Baptists totally reject Calvinism whereas it has been on the rise amongst Southern Baptist ranks for years. The biggest difference between Missionary Baptist and Southern Baptist Doctrine is over Landmarkism.
The basic tenants of Landmarkism are as follows.
1. Denial of any form of universal church. Only local baptist congregations qualify as a church.
2. The first Baptist Church (in practice not in name) was established by Jesus during His earthly ministry and Baptist churches of today are directly decended from that church that Jesus built. The Lords true churches have never gone out of existence.
3. Only Baptist churches are real churches in the New Testament sense. All other so called churches be they Methodist, Catholic, Lutheran etc. are merely man made organizations with no claim to the title church. (Note that Missionary Baptists do no say a person must be Baptist to be saved and go to heaven, they simply say that to be a legitimate church in the eyes of God, a church must be Baptist in doctrine, practice, and lineage. There is a difference between church membership and salvation.
4. Closed Communion. Missionary Baptists practice closed communion which means that only the members of an individual church may partake of communion.
Deb wrote at 2011-06-05 22:51:15
The Independent Missionary Churches in rural areas just outside of Knoxville, TN, do believe once saved always saved. They do not do any missionary work or provide any funds to help anyone other than their members or possibly someone who knows someone in the church. They will not use any bible study material, only the King James version of the bible. They do not want blacks,hispanics,etc., in their churches. No education requirements for pastors. There are pastors who have no more than a 6th grade elementary school education.
Rachael wrote at 2011-07-12 01:49:52
Hi, My name is Rachael and since I was born in 1979 I was raised in the way of Missionary Baptist beliefs and still today believe that way and teach my children in that way. The Ten Commandments and the Church Covenant are to be believed and entrusted. I have studied many religions during my adulthood as I was saved as a young lady I had many questions. My research shows that many religions believe there is a mediator between you and God, such as a priest. Your only mediator is Jesus and you seek the Lord through him. This isn't a religion where you may say " I believe" and someone baptizes you and you gain your salvation. Though once you seek the Lord and your salvation is your saving grace, then it is yours. You won't "lose" it. However as the bible states, "you must repent your sins, "ask Forgiveness"." The Lord promises forgiveness for his only son died for our sins. If you attend a Missionary Baptist church you will see that the "Bible" is its doctrine. We are a disciplined and independent religion-church. Its rewarding and more than satisfying. Hope this helps and if you need reference, please, let me know.
Missionary Baptist KJ Preacher wrote at 2012-03-06 14:55:20
Before Christ started His church, God sent a man named John to prepare the materials for the Lord's church (John 1: 6, Mat. 3). The word missionary means "one who is sent". John was a Missionary from God, and Jesus called him as the Baptist (Mat.11:11). We cannot prove in the Bible that John was a Bible Baptist, a Southern Baptist, a Fundamental Baptist, but we can prove in the Bible that John was a Missionary Baptist. John was called by Christ as the Baptist because he is an authorized baptiser. All the members of the first church including the founder received the same Baptism, Missionary Baptist baptism. (You will notice that the many founders of churches today have their founder's baptism different of that the members.) Jesus, after his baptism started his church in the shore of Galilee, and before his ascension, commissioned the church (Matt.28:18-20). Though Christ did not specifically give a name to His church, yet there are some identifying characteristics of His true church such as Christ as the founder and head, founded in the first century, etc. They were simply called, brethren, disciples, the way... and then Christians by their enemies and later they adopted such name (Acts 11: 26). During the dark ages, they were called "Anabaptist" which means rebaptizers. In the 14th - 17th century, the prefix "Ana" was dropped off, and they were simply called as Baptist. However, some Baptists were influenced by Calvinism and others went to the extreme of becoming anti- missions, and so Baptists who believe in missions were identified as missionary Baptists. Prior to the SBC, BBFI, GARB, etc, there were already independent churches who are called missionary Baptists. In fact, in the constitution and by laws of the SBC it states, we are compose of regular missionary Baptists, and same with the BBFI. Therefore, The Southern Baptists came from Missionary Baptists. Their churches were formerly missionary Baptist and when the SBC convention was formed in 1845, they became Southern Baptists and no longer uses the title Missionary Baptist. Some Southern Baptists became dissatisfied due to the liberalism in the SBC and so men such as Frank Norris and Vick formed the Baptist Bible Fellowship which later develop into BBFI and the SBC churches who joined them later were known as Bible Baptists. Bible Baptist came from SBC. Due to the issue of slavery, the SBC were divided, and the Baptists in the north became American Baptist Convention (ABC). From the ABC came out the GARB and the Conservative Baptist. But the Southern Baptist came from the Missionary Baptist. The Missionary Baptists were simply called Baptists prior to the influence of Calvin among the Baptist as some became anti missions and hardshell baptists. The Missionary Baptists were the former Anabaptist, which history can be traced back to the church founded by Christ. it is not a coincidence that Jesus and His disciples were all baptised by a missionary Baptist. Most founders of churches today, have different baptism from their members, but the church which is the body of Christ, has the same baptism with the head, Jesus, a missionary Baptist baptism. Though Christ did not name His church, Missionary Baptist is a scriptural name for a Scriptural church. Missionary Baptist emphasizes that missionaries must be sent by a church and not mission boards, in order to have scriptural missions because it is the church that the Lord commissioned, Mat. 28: 18-20. Therefore the church is a missionary in nature, and a Baptist because she has the authority to baptise. Any church started by a man not sent by a scriptural church is unscriptural.
Don Smith wrote at 2012-06-13 11:40:38
Based upon your writings and response to the question: You are describing the IFB as cults rather than churches.
Bible n Bama wrote at 2015-06-10 21:53:25
In response to Patricia, I'm not sure what kind of "missionary Baptist" church you go to but according to the official missionary Baptist articles of faith, we DO believe in once saved always saved. And, as posted earlier, there is no difference in a missionary Baptist and Southern Baptist. The SBC was formed from missionary Baptist Churches. Now, some in the last 50 years are so have disagreed with the SBC and split off to be called IMB (independent missionary Baptist). Also, again to Patricia, in no way has the Southern Baptist Convention EVER passed anything that would condone a woman in the pulpit. That's directly contrary to God's word.
j walker wrote at 2016-08-05 20:11:46
I am a member of a missionary Baptist church. We believe you can not lose true salvation. Nothing can separate me from the love of God. We accept anyone of any race if they have been saved and feel led by the spirit to join our church. Baptism never saved one soul, however it has saved many lives, mine included. No women preachers, see the book of timothy if you disagree( man of one wife), so that means no preachers with 2 or more living wives either. We still believe in and go by the same articles of faith we were founded on, unlike southern Baptists who revise theirs periodically, I'm assuming to keep up with a changing world. Yes, it is strict. If you have ever read the bible, you'll notice God was(and still is) pretty strict.