Expert: Mrs. Priscilla Lyons - 1/29/2010

Question
QUESTION: The following is a copy paste of what I have typed on a message board:


Day 1

God makes heaven and a formless earth, and light and dark.

The earth was formed 9.2 billions years after the big bang, not even remotely close to each other in time periods...



And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Evening and morning the first day... hmm... that sounds like a 24 hour day  (6 days of 24 hour periods). The timeline of the big bang however is in the billions of years



God raises up the land on a watery earth, and then he creates trees and grasses.

Plants and grass were later arrivals in the history of life and earth. Grasses arose in the Cretaceous, angiosperms evolved in the Jurassic. This would put them past day 5 (after fish).


Good one:  Day 4:

God gets around to making the sun and the moon and the stars.


The sun and moon came BEFORE life existed on this planet, not after... MAJOR inaccuracy of genesis...

And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Well more evidence that the days were really 24 hour periods...

Day 6

God creates terrestrial animals, and people. The people are put in charge


I'm sure anyone who has even been to elementary school would know about fossils and how ancient they are. And anyone who has studied biology AT ALL will know animals came before (long before) humans did.

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Even more for the 24 hour time periods

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So in the above, basically the bible is proven to be wrong... open up genesis and see for yourself, or I can quote the verses in a areply if you'd like.

ANSWER: You're right, Mike.  If anyone really believes evolutionary fairy tales of long ago and far away, then they will not really believe the Bible that stays within historical times and places.  
   Fossils are not formed over long periods of time.  Bones are eaten or disintegrate over long periods.  Fossils are formed by being covered quickly with mud under great pressure--the world-wide flood.  
   Read Genesis 7.  Verse 11 mentions the fountains of the deep broken up.  The very small (in comparison) Mt. St. Helens eruption in 1980 caused a miniature Grand Canyon in a matter of hours and days not millions of years.
   People promote the evolutionary, spontaneous generation, life from non-life theory (disproved by Louis Pasteur) because they don't want to be accountable to their Creator.  It's sad that the Creator of everything good, Who died to pay for everything bad we've done, is rejected.
   Priscilla

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QUESTION: There are many issues with what you replied.

1) Evolution is evolution, abiogenesis is abiogenesis. They are not the same thing, two entirely seperate strong theories

2) Big bang theory has NOTHING to do with evolution on earth

3) You did not address the main genesis verses that I showed which very clearly contain strong scientific errors

The big bang did happen whether you like it or not, for these reasons:

1) Microwave background radiation

2) The expansion of the universe

3) The cooling of the universe

4) The ratio of hydrogen, helium, lithium, and beryllium.

5) The extreme density smoothness throughout the universe that's over 99,999 parts per 100,000.

6) Why the fluctuations in spacial density that occur at under a billionth the volume of a proton are exactly the same pattern as the largest scale structures in the universe very strongly suggesting that at one point the entire universe was smaller than a billionth the volume of a proton.

7) Why slow role inflation is continueing to this day.

8) Why the amount of matter is exactly the amount predicited by CP breakdown.



And also here's something you will find interesting, as well as strong factual evidence about the age of the universe, and that is we are able to see light from galaxies which left up to several billion years ago.

You seem to have a lack of understanding of the science behind abiogenesis btw... here is a video that will help you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg

He's a harvard medical school proffessor.



ANSWER: Instant star light is no more difficult for God to create than instant stars.  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?  God created everything perfectly mature and in place, ready to produce after its kind.

If you want scientists with higher degrees than a Harvard medical professor, go to icr.org.

If my faith in the Bible is misplaced, I've lost nothing when I've come to the end of my physical life.  If your faith in evolution is misplaced, you face your Creator with serious consequences.  I pray that you consider your choice carefully.

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QUESTION: Ok so my evidence has validated the theories and you are accepting it (because it's impossible to refute what I've presented to you), and are now saying God could have created the light alread on it's way here, but how does that change the fact that what we are seeing is still millions or billions of light years away?

ICR.org is a non sense site fyi...
Did you actually watch the video I presented? Can you explain to me why its wrong with evidence, as I presented to you evidence of my own, the least you can do is give some back.

It is more logical (much more) to believe that the bible is wrong, than to say what we are seeing with our own eyes, and what we mathematically calculate is wrong.

I would like to know how long you've spent studying science and physics btw... I don't think someone can draw conclusions that something is wrong, if they don't have the neccessary knowledge to do so.

The chicken or the egg argument is like like talking square circles. Logical falacies.

Now, what evidence do you have for the existence of the christian god?  

Answer
If everything we see and feel doesn't fit the Bible's explanation better than any other explanation, and if the sacrifice Jesus made for you doesn't mean anything to you, then I could present you with all the evidence in the world, and it wouldn't change your mind.  

I'm sorry I can't help you see the Light since you're determined to do your own thing.  Don't waste your time and mine writing back.