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About Warren Friedl
Expertise 20 Years Pro Shop Owner/Operator, 17 Years Bowling Center Operator (Manager/General Manager), Certified Coach since National Bowling Council and YABA days. Also Dick Ritger and USA Bowling Bronze certified. International Bowling Pro Shop and Instructors Association (IBPSIA) Charter member, IBPSIA Certified, IBPSIA "On Lanes" Certified, 2 Time Member of the IBPSIA Board of Directors and Past Secretary/Treasurer, Small Shop columnist "Pro Shop Operator" Magazine, contributor to "Bowlers Journal International" magazine, editor of IBPSIA NET NEWS weekly e-newsletter, editor of "The Bowling Tree" blog and webmaster of www.revbowl.com.
Experience 20 Years operating Revolutions Pro Shops in 2nd Largest bowling ball market in the country, Chicagoland.
17 Years in Center operations as Marketing Director, Asst. Manager or General Manager, becoming GM in every Center I worked.
Organizations American Bowling Congress/USBC Member since 1976, bowling 50 years.
International Bowling Pro Shop and Instructors Association (IBPSIA) Charter and continuing member (18 years), 2 time member of IBPSIA Board of Directors, former Secretary/Treasurer.
US Bowling Coaches Association (Bronze Coach)
Bowling Writers Association of America (BWAA)
Publications “Bowlers Journal International” and “Pro Shop Operator” Magazines.
Chicago Bowler, Windy City Bowling News, Centennial Lanes.com, The Bowling Tree Blog, IBPSIA.com and IBPSIA Net News (e-newsletter).
Education/Credentials IBPSIA Technically Certified. Multiple Seminars from AMF, Brunswick, Columbia, Circle, Ebonite, Hammer, Mo-Rich, Storm, Track, Dexter, Etonic, and others. Kaploe and Davis Bowling Marketing training.
Certified with the Young America Bowling Alliance (YABA) and the National Bowling Council (NBC) as a coach in 1982. Other coaching credentials include: Dick Ritger Level One, Dick Ritger Coaching Coaches, and USA Bowling Bronze Level.
Awards and Honors Created and executed Promotions highlighted in Bowlers Journal Magazine and included in the “150 Promotions for Bowling Centers” organized by the Bowling Proprietors Association of America (BPAA).
First Pro Shop featured in Bowling Industry magazine, for customer service and merchandising, October 1996.
Identified “One of the best ball fitters in the country” by then Track, Inc. President Del Warren, September 2005.
Tournament Promotions lead to top performance in center, or for center hosted events including: Chicago City Championships, US Open Qualifiers, Amateur Bowlers Tour.
Past/Present Clients Presenter at the IBPSIA National Convention.
Presenter at Bowling Proprietors Association Management School
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Bowling - trying to find the fight ball setup
Expert: Warren Friedl - 10/26/2009
Question QUESTION: I live in an area with small bowling centers with no pros. There is only one pro and he would rather change everyone to a down and in bowler then find a ball that works. I average about 202 but sometimes have problems with ball reaction. It really seems, the way my balls are drilled, I am not getting the most out of them. I stand all the way left, throw over center arrow til about to 5 and it normally comes back. Sometimes the ball out revs and wont come back hard enough and sometimes the ball will rev early and come back to quick. This is hitting the same mark on the lane. The balls that pro drills just feel very wrong for me. What should I do?
ANSWER: Klark,
You're using the whole lane from the first frame of the first game? Attacking the lane from that angle typically removes oil (from the front part of the lane) and changes how the lane plays as you bowl. Are you finding the first game is good but you struggle with the lane condition changes in second and third games?
Ball reaction is layout, ball surface, lane conditions and all that you contribute (rev rate, ball speed, axis tilt and rotation). I'd need lots more info about your equipment, including how thay are laid out, to begin to understand what's going on.
Can you time the ball from foul line to pins (that will help with ball speed). The other info is harder to identify. Best is to get a video of your shots with the Positive Axis Point marked with a tracer. Can you get a video?
Thanks for the questions. look forward to hearing from you.
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QUESTION: I have 4 balls I feature: Hammer the sauce out of the box finish with the pin being just to the right of the fingers with the center mark about 2 inches under the right finger. Lane 1 chainsaw massacre out of box finish with the same layout as the sauce. Storm deuce(my favorite) out of box with the same layout. Columbia epx out of box but the layout is straight down on the right side of the ball. My game averages are usually pretty close all the way through. According to stats my second and third games are the best. Sometimes its hard for me to get started. My ball speed is usually at 15.5 to 16.2. The track on my ball is just to the left of my fingers very very wide and goes straight down from there. Every so often I get a "j" track on the ball. Can you help?
Thanks
Klark
Answer Klark,
You've got a couple different balls with different surfaces, and play them all from fourth arrow to the friction near the gutter? The Sauce and EPX are aggressive surfaces, yet you don't throw real hard, is there a lot of oil on the lanes you bowl on? How do the strong covers work for you?
The Deuce is your favorite, is it shiny from use? The layout being drilled for you is basically just over the label (1 to 2 o'clock pin), does the driller know your Positive Axis Point (PAP) or any of your specifics of tilt, rotation or rev rate?
A label drill for an inside angle to the pocket isn't the optimum layout for the ball to turn hard and recover at the breakpoint with good continuation for carry, the label drill is the (typically) longest/strongest (down the boards)layout. Swinging the Center of Gravity (CG) and Mass Bias (MB) under the pin to swinging it towards or past the Vertical Axis line can create a stronger reaction, better recovery and more flare potential. Have you ever rolled a ball with a weight hole and the above ideas?
The track is close to your fingers, and equally close to the thumb? Not familiar with the expression "J" track can you explain further? Please fill me in more and we can cover more options for you. thanks for hanging in.
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