Buddhists/Rebirth (Several Questions)
Expert: Justin Choo - 12/3/2006
QuestionThanks for your answer; the light bulb metaphor makes a lot of sense. Now, I have another related question if I may about how Buddhists view the origin of the universe (or all existence). I won't pretend to be extensively knowledgeable of Buddhist scriptures (I try to devote more time to practical applications and also translations of the pali cannon tend to be a bit too expensive and hard to come by), but I am familiar with the aggaññasutta which describes beings (and their world) as having experienced a sort of “fall from grace” from being creatures of light to humans because of their desires. From this I would imagine that it is thought that at some past point all beings existed in a type of nirvana-like state but experienced some crisis that led to our current universe and that this sort of cycle of fall into samsara and liberation happens endlessly in all universes. Am I way off the mark here?
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My question is a somewhat complex one, or at least so it seems to me; I would like to know precisely how the Buddhist idea of rebirth differs from the idea of reincarnation. I understand that the latter involves the transmigration of a soul from one physical body to the next and that rebirth is supposedly different because it involves no such transmigration because Buddhists do not believe in a soul. I've heard it explained that rebirth is more of just a realization of how each being finds it cause in the previous being, like the handing of a flame from a dying candle to a new one, yet time and time again, I hear Buddhists speaking of being someone else in a past life. How can this be? Wouldn't it to be more accurate to say not that I WAS such and such person before this life, but rather that I simply received the kamma of that person? Even the Buddha speaks of past lives, and we say that he was Vesantara and the others Jataka Heroes. If there is no soul or essence (because there is no eternal self/ego) which survives death, then how is it that we are our predecessors and successors? And if we are not them, how can kamma be just as it punishes and rewards us for the actions of others?
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Hi Jacob,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I must congratulate you that you have got the idea of rebirth correctly. So I need not elaborate. This phenomenon of rebirth is a very unique one. We can say the consciousness is like an electric current. This current lights up different bulbs. This current is not the same at any one moment, it travels or in a flux. As for the bulbs, it is quite obvious that they are different bulbs. However the light that the different bulbs emit is neither the same nor different. The Buddha expressed the rebirth process as "neither exactly the same nor totally different" ("Na ca so, na ca anno", in Pali) (Pronounce: "Nar cha so, nar cha un-yo").
The very fact that we cannot remember our past lives is an indication that we were not them. But the fact that we are here, brings question as to wherefrom we came. We may argue or analyze by using our intellectual capacity till the cows come home; still we will never be satisfied. It is believed that if one practises Buddhist meditation diligently, one may ultimately find realization through the power of the mind.
Smile from justinchoo :-)
AnswerHi Jacob,
You are not off the mark. Maybe I can make some comments. The beginning of the world or even the universe was actually not a real beginning. There cannot be a beginning. It was the "beginning" of a cycle of formation and destruction. When the world was completely destroyed, beings existed in other dimensions. As existence is not permanent, sooner or later beings would be reborn to other realms depending on the quality of their storehouse of consciousness. Inevitably, when one was at a higher realm, the lower would be one's next rebirth, as the merits would have been depleted in one's storehouse of consciousness. There won't be any opportunity for accumulation of merits in the higher realms. It would be more for enjoyment over there. This would be the reason for the higher realms' devas taking rebirth on earth in the "beginning". And the viscious cycle repeats itself.
Smile from justinchoo :-)