Buying or Selling a Home/Filing a Complaint

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My sister called a listing realtor to show us a home that we were interested
in.  My sister let the realtor know that I was working with my aunt as my
realtor from the beginning.  I also let her know that my aunt was rolling her
commissions into our closing cost so we would have no closing cost out of
our pockets.  The listing realtor stated that "she could get us minimal to no
closing cost if we used her as our realtor.  (Isn't that violating a code of ethic?
)  She also stated that she could better represent us because she does it all
the time (dealing with foreclosures). Isn't that another code of ethics that she
violated?   The listing realtor did show us the home; however, we went
another time with my aunt (the true realtor)  to look at the house to see if we
truly wanted the house and if it was the right fit for us.  We did end up
making an offer.  The listing agent who showed us the house was not the
procuring cause as to why we made an offer on the house.  But she (the
listing realtor) is now wanting a referral fee from my realtor who was rolling
her commissions into our closing cost.  Now we are out of pocket $2000
extra because this listing agent is wanting the referral fee even though she
did nothing to sell the house.  She knew from the beginning that we were
working with a realtor.  Isn't this realtor violating code of ethics?  Hasn't she
violated her Fiduciary relationships?  Is the listing realtor right by requesting
a referral fee?  Or do I have a case to file to the grievance committee?

Answer
Hello Les - You always have the right to file a complaint. There is more than one potential violation in your question. Article 16 "interfering with another REALTORS agency relationship" is only a violation of the Code of Ethics if the buyer has a contractual ("Exclusive")agency relationship with the buyers agent. Without this contract you may be working with another agent but you do not have a contractual/exclusive relationship which is required to have an Article 16 complaint. Basically, the difference between 'working' with and being an 'exclusive client'(representation contract)of a REALTOR. Procuring Cause is much more complicated issue to determine. Also, each state has different statutes, administrative codes, substantive policies, common laws, etc which also must be examined in an agency or procuring cause complaint. As far as the NAR Code of Ethics is concerned, Article 17 requires mandatory arbitration when two designated brokers have a commission dispute. The complainant is the proponent of the dispute so the REALTOR due the money would be the complainant. Has your aunt discussed this with her designated broker, managing broker or branch manager? This should be her first contact. Her broker will be able to lead the defense to protect their compensation and the credit due towards your settlement fees. The concept of paying the listing agent a referral fee is up to your aunts broker, which they may select as an option to prevent a procuring cause complaint. In no way does this interpret the listing agent is 'right' in asking for one. Why otherwise would the buyer broker pay it? There is another question that requested a procuring cause explanation which can be found on allexperts.com under my archive of previously asked questions. please refer to that question for the remainder of the procuring cause criteria. You do not have a complaint to file. The issue is between the listing office and your aunts office only.  Therefore, if your aunt has an exclusive contractual agency relationship with you she would file an Article 16 complaint against the other agent. It would be the complainants position to support her complaint with 'clear and convincing evidence'. If she did not have this agency contract then she would have no Ethics Complaint, but depending upon your state laws there may be other agency statutes violations, or not. I hope this has helped. Please remember this is not legal advice as I am not an attorney, rather this is to be considered real estate information any professional REALTOR should be able to provide. Please reply if you have additional questions. Thank you - Todd

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National Association of Realtors Code of Ethics and Professional Standards * Contract Questions: 05/05 Arizona Real Estate Purchase Contract, Exclusive Buyer Broker Contracts, Listing Contracts and associated contract documentation as it relates to boilerplate, covenants, contingencies, procedures and procedures. * ARMLS Arizona Regional Multiple Listing questions * Real Estate Professional Standards and Practices, Ethics, Obligations, Duties * Agency relationships in Arizona, Procurring Cause * Questions typicaly arising during the listing period * Questions typically arising during the escrow period * Questions about working with a real estate agent/REALTOR * Questions Related to New Home Builders

Experience

National Association of REALTORS Board of Director (2011) Arizona Real Estate Salesperson License (1991-1995), Arizona Real Estate Brokers License (1995-Present), Arizona Association of REALTORS Board of Directors (2008-Present), Arizona Association of REALTORS Professional Standards Committee (2008-Present), AAR Certified NAR Code of Ethics and Professional Standards Instructor, Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS President-Elect (2011) Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS Board of Directors (2008, 2009), Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS Grievance Committee Chairperson (1998-2007), Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS Bylaws Committee (2008-Present), Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS Education Committee (2008), Arizona Association of REALTORS Forms Committee - Residential Purchase Contract (2005), Arizona Association of REALTORS Forms Committee - Residential Rental Agreement (2008), Arizona Association of REALTORS Forms Committee - Buyer Broker Agreement (2009), Arizona Association of REALTORS Presidents Advisory Group, Road to Professionalism (2009), Arizona Association of REALTORS GRI Curriculum Review Committee (2009), Arizona Department of Real Estate, Commissioner's Education Advisory Group Sub-Panel B (2010) Arizona Department of Real Estate, Commissioner's Statute and License Review Committee (2007)

Organizations
National Association of REALTORS, Arizona Association of REALTORS, Arizona Real Estate Educators Association (AZREEA), Arizona Regional Multiple Listing System (ARMLS), American Notary Association, Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS (SEVRAR), Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS Women's Council of REALTORS (2010-Present), Phoenix Association of REALTORS (1994-2000, 2005-2009), Scottsdale Association of REALTORS (1994-2000, 2005-2009), Maricopa/Glendale Association of REALTORS (1994-2000, 2005-2009),

Publications
"Real Estate in 2008"- Lifebushido Publishing (Contributory Author), SEVRAR Magazine, Internet Crusade, RealTown ListServe, Blogger.com, Active Rain

Education/Credentials
- AAR Certified Ethics and Professional Standards Instructor, Graduate REALTOR Institute (1993), Certified Negotiation Expert (CNE), Over 100 Hours of annual real estate continuing education, Annual Ethics and Professional Standards Development Workshops as required by the National Association of REALTORS, Approx. 36 hours of NAR Code of Ethics training annually, Numerous IDW, Seminars and Train the Trainer programs, Business Management Degree - 1981

Awards and Honors
2009 REALTOR of the Year Award, Southeast Valley Regional Association of REALTORS (10,000+ Members), Double Platinum Production Award ($45,000,000 Sales Volume)- Keller Williams Realty Int'l (2001), Top 15 Sales Production Keller Williams Realty International (2001), Top 5 Sales Producation Keller Williams Realty Southwest Region (2001), Top Recruiter Award - Keller Williams Realty Int'l, SW Region (2002), Who's Who in U.S. Executive (1983), Who's Who in U.S. Real Estate Professionals (2007)

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